Just be patient. The warming is really coming. It’s just going to take a little longer than we first thought.
After David Viner had made his now famous “Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past” claim in 2000, the always publicity-seeking Prof. Mojib Latif of Germany’s Max Planck Institute made sure to get in on the act, telling Spiegel only days later: “There aren’t going to be winters with strong frosts and lots of snow at our latitudes anymore, like 20 years ago.”
Today, as Germany reels from its 5th colder-than-normal winter in a row (a record), Latif’s words are sounding cavernously hollow. As a result, Germany’s fundamentalist warmist, catastrophe-obsessed blog site klimaretter.de (climate rescuers) has gone into the damage-control mode, and has conducted an interview with the Prof. Latif in order to re-convince the public that the threat is still out there, is real and that we must remain afraid.
Latif is a meteorologist and climate scientist at the Helmholtz Center for Ocean Research in Kiel (Geomar). He’s also a top IPCC scientist. Photo credit: Björn Láczay from Moosburg, Germany. Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license.
Latif: Warming has been small so far
In the interview Latif claims that people have simply forgotten what a winter really looks like, and that’s why snow makes us think the winter is harsh. He tells us that also in times of global warming there can be real winters. “The warming so far with 0.7 to 0.8 on a global average is still small.” The natural climate fluctuations can still have their full impacts. “Still small”? Before they told us that kind of warming was “unprecedented”.
Latif now postpones warm winters by up to 100 years!
When asked about his David Viner-like comment made to Spiegel in 2000, Latif is forced to amend it, saying: “Indeed there won’t be any more cold winters in 2050 or 2100, if the mean temperatures are several degrees higher.” There we have it: Warm winters suddenly postponed 50 – 100 years.
Latif: Recent cold winters are just weather
When asked to explain what is behind the unexpected, recent harsh winters, Latif tells klimaretter that there are currently 2 explanations: 1) The Arctic ice melt may be changing the atmospheric currents, or 2) changes to currents in the stratosphere. Latif then seems to go on and dismiss both of these explanations, offering his own: “My hypothesis is: The cause is the completely normal chaos of the weather.”
Latif: Warming has stopped but is taking place “in the background”
Ooooh, we’re so scared. Latif acknowledges that warming has stopped over the last 15 years, but labels the conclusion that the AGW theory is therefore wrong as “nonsense”. The recent temperature stagnation “is not in contradiction to global warming“, and cites natural fluctuations that “can have an impact for decades“. He insists that “warming is still taking place in the background“.
Latif: Accelerated warming is just around the next corner!
In the interview, Latif claims that once the natural and man-made causes start complimenting each other, global temperatures will take off again. “The current stagnation means everything but calling off the alarm.”
Now IPCC scientists are telling us that the big bad warming is still out there, that we still need to be very afraid, but that it’s only postponed…maybe up to 100 years… But it’s out there!
This all reminds me of a scene in the 1986 movie “Stand By Me” (one of my favorites) where scaredy-cat Vern is guarding the camp, scared crapless of a cricket (at 10:12).
Vern on guard (at 10:12), spooked by every little sound. Stand by Me (1986)
It’s suppose to snow in New Jersey this weekend. Just another part of Global Warming?
We should be worried, be very worried… 100 years from now, LOL. From climate alarmism to climate comedy, that’s cool. Except that they want more tax money to keep funding them and their endless global junkets.
Hi Nonoy,
I wanted to post this yesterday, but it took longer than I thought to stop laughing.
I have to hand it to Mr. Latif. He really is good. 🙂 Latif knows full well that a continuation of the temperature standstill puts AGW Theory into serious question. 20 years of no warming cannot be simply dismissed – it strikes at the very heart of the models and IPCC projections.
You have to feel sorry for Warmists as their predictions just aren’t panning out and global mean temperature stands still. The elephant in the room will become very apparent if global temps start falling – then it’s game over. No amout of excuses can prevent them from having to dump the theory or do some serious re-writing. Either way the IPCC predictions for 2100 will have to be re-modelled as being very mild and alarm finally over.
The science-vatican of my newspaper said the same. So he is in good company. If I understand the text well, back-ground warming means that the present temperatures would have been much lower without that warming, which is difficult to observe as this may go on in some alternative universe. Perhaps back-ground warming can be utilized by people suffering from fuel-poverty.
To add to the hilarity, this blog at the Bishops place explains the science.
“Tightening scientific belts
Mar 16, 2013 Bureaucrats Climate: Sceptics
The editor of Science, Bruce Alberts, published an editorial yesterday called “Am I Wrong?”. It’s a fairly bog-standard call for the taxpaying public to cough up more money for the public sector, and it will be no surprise to readers that one of Alberts’ hoped-for recipients is the scientific community (the other is “infrastructure projects”).
In response there is a comment from Mike Kelly, of Oxburgh panel fame:
Some points that you have not considered, which blunt the strength of your argument: The scientific enterprise is not immune from the peril of obesity. Periodic downturns in funding provide an opportunity to weed out the less than effective. Even you I think would agree that much of the ‘science around climate change’ is second rate – repeatedly drawing unwarranted conclusions from incomplete data and extrapolating from simulations of model climates that have not been robustly verified in terms than an engineer would regard as essential as the basis for future action.”
more at http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2013/3/16/tightening-scientific-belts.html
He he, I knew it. It’s just a retreat by small steps and eyewash for dummies 😉
All religions are futurist. But Latif is beginning to sound like Harold Camping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_and_claims_for_the_Second_Coming_of_Christ
That sounds like 2012 phenomenon to me 😉
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
That too.
Jesus said …
“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.”
Matt 24:23-26
Harold Camping should not be confused with actual texts from the Bible, which as you can see, show a very strong parallel with what is in the article above. I wrote to Camping in 1993 about his 1994 predictions (yes, he has done it before), but he seems to ignore the Bible in favour of his fairytales, much as we see with the warmists.
As has be said many time, why let the truth get in the way of a good story, but it does, and it did even way back 2000 years ago (and before).
We passed Peak Warm sometime between 1998 and 2002. Now, after a one-solar-cycle delay, we are approaching Peak Stupid.
I see, not in his lifetime.
Piers Corbyn: The new Mini Ice Age is upon us (“MIA fingerprint now overwhelming”) http://climaterealists.com/attachments/ftp/WANews13No5_The_new_Mini_Ice_Age_is_upon_us_IdesMarch.pdf
I wonder how Mr. Latif would explain that when we are in the middle of it.
Lying
As
The
Intelligence
Fails
Or the anagram of Latif = Failt
Urban dictionary:
This word is a combination of the words “fail” and “fault”. It is used when someone has done something terribly wrong and it is completely their fault.