The Real Reason Why The Warmists Totally Dread The Future Of Rising CO2…Divergence!

I was looking at the Climate4you.com/ chart Joe Bastardi used in a recent post. It shows the CO2 and the temperature curves. In it we already see the first signs of why the warmists are getting seriously nervous. The divergence is beginning:

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Figure 1: TODAY: CO2 concentration and global temperature. The divergence began in 2005.

I asked myself what is it going to look like in 10 or 15 years with the negative AMO and PDO (let’s leave out the solar activity slumber for now) continuing. So I took the Climate4You chart, cut and extended it out to the year 2030. We know CO2 is going to keep rising. Next I simply extended the negative phase of the AMO and PDO global temp out to 2030 so that it’s behaves similarly to the last negative phase for the 1950s, 60s and 70s. Doing that you get the following development:

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Figure 2: 2030…oh my, what a wonderful correlation.

Now you know why the warmists are crapping bricks big time right now. They see the writing on the wall – they know the Great Climate Scam has got but only a few more years to live, and then it is over! RIP! It’s going to get worse with every passing year. In fact, let’s hope CO2 skyrockets to 500 ppm soon…it’ll make their error look even more profound.

Many will argue that you just can’t assume the AMO and the PDO will have a similar impact as it did from 1950s through the 1970s. Well, we’ll see. So far it’s right on track!

And let’s recall that next years will see low solar activity, and so the temperatures could drop even more. It gets even worse if a major volcano erupts. The warmists are not going to have a place to hide.

 

13 responses to “The Real Reason Why The Warmists Totally Dread The Future Of Rising CO2…Divergence!”

  1. stephen richards

    It’s that major volcanic eruption that I fear particularly on Iceland. I’m not worried about the ash disrupting the airways, the last time was mainly due to idiots at the UK met off believing their models and not the data, no, the ash will most likemy flow n-ne away from europe, it’s the affect it will have on an already cooling climate.

  2. Harry Dale Huffman

    “…the divergence is beginning…”

    On the contrary, the CO2 and temperature trends diverged before 1975, and after 2000. Only in that 25 year period could they say the two were correlated. This is actually quite important, because it is so simple an observation; one need not get into esoteric statistical arguments to uncover the fraud, as Steve McIntyre did for example. Simply, the climate scientists based their entire “global warming” program on 1975 – 2000. I first became aware of the climate debate in late 2009, and by early 2010 I had already realized this fundamental fact, just from looking at the graphs put before the public. Any really competent scientist, upon studying those graphs, should have realized the same, fairly quickly. I have tried to make this point, here, long ago. The near impossibility I discovered in trying to get others to see the obvious was, in fact, why I went on, to seek out the simplest, definitive facts, not theory, to show the emptiness of the consensus climate science. I found that evidence in my Venus/Earth temperatures comparison, in late 2010. And even that definitive, factual evidence has not gotten through, so far, even to most “global warming” skeptics — the “lukewarmers” treat “deniers”, like me, of the global-warming greenhouse effect, the same way the alarmists treat the lukewarmers.

  3. Joe Bastardi

    Put the Triple Crown of cooling on the Oreilly factor over 4 years ago, forecasting a return to 1978 temps by 20 30, and got slammed by these people, and you can see why. The Sun is the conductor of the grand planetary climate orchestra with the Oceans and Stochastic events ( ie volcanoes) making the music. Co2 is an alternate flute at best.

    It gets to watch, but little beyond

  4. stephen richards

    Joe Bastardi
    12. Mai 2013 at 21:41 | Permalink | Reply

    Put the Triple Crown of cooling on the Oreilly factor over 4 years ago, forecasting a return to 1978 temps by 20 30, and got slammed by these people, and you can see why. The Sun is the conductor of the grand planetary climate orchestra with the Oceans and Stochastic events ( ie volcanoes) making the music. Co2 is an alternate flute at best.

    Hi Joe, I rather thought the triangle as a representative instrument for CO². 🙂

    I have noted in Lamb’s work that warmth arrives slowly while cold arrives very quickly. He showed that cooling as a far more rapid occurence that warming. Given that, maybe the coldest period will be here log before 2030 unless you meant 20:30 tomorrow night. 🙂

  5. stephen richards

    I’m praying no major volcanic eruptions in the next 5 years – otherwise CO2 fans will blame all the cooling on it.

    It makes no difference. Volcano, sun etc they will still insist it’s global warming.

    Incidently, we must keep saying global warming. Don’t let them get away with that climate change crap.

  6. Alex

    Remember that whatever happens on this planet, inside the two fluid-spheres, that is its atmosphere and hydrosphere, the most important condition is that the planet is surrounded by an empty space that has a temperature of 0 (zero) degrees kelvin. So, if for any reason the energy in the two fluid-spheres increases, the energy imbalance tends to be neutralised by the increased flow of energy towards space due to the increased delta-T. Hence an increase in the energy budget results in an increase in the energy transfered to space by radiation. The heat sink provided by space is always theref

    But if it happens that the energy budget decreases, resulting in a lower total energy state and therefore a lowered global average temperature, there’s no way this negative imbalance can be neutralised since there is no heat source. That is why I fear a cold sun more than a warm sun. The sun is the sole provider of energy in this planet of ours. Long live the modern warm period, down with ice ages.

  7. tckev

    With luck we shall soon hit 500ppm, and no neither the world nor humans will cease to be. The climate worriers, and their glorified apocalyptic computer games machines, will then be off the gravy-train (with luck) of grant maintained fearmongering.
    Greenhouse gas warming – bah! Our so called greenhouse has no stable roof.

  8. slimething

    Sorry to spoil the party, but the Team has adjusted the SAT records…..again.
    http://is.gd/fVAvPV

    Given these latest “adjustments”, no matter how cold it gets, the climastrologists will simply wipe it out with more “adjustments”.

    1. DirkH

      Oh, that’s good news for David Appell. He and I got into an argument over whether it has stopped warming. This will do wonders for his belief system.

  9. J Martin

    Yes I think what you’ve done there would have been what we could have expected to see. But, we also need to add to that graph the effect of the Sun going into a quiet period, most likely to 2030 and possibly even to 2100.

    So that means that we can expect to see the trend toward cooling steepen, especially once we get past the current solar plateau in about 2014 / 2015 as we head towards the solar low at 2022. And then it’s all over for the riduculous climate scientists who’s religious amateurism will be clear for all to see, even the hypnotised politicians will wake up.

    Temperatures should certainly get back to those we saw in the seventies and may well go lower by 2030 if solar activity remains on course for a repeat of the Dalton Minimum as it currently is.

  10. mwhite

    “180 Years accurate CO2 – Gasanalysis of Air by Chemical Methods (Short version)”

    http://www.anenglishmanscastle.com/180_years_accurate_Co2_Chemical_Methods.pdf

    There’s so much here, but

    “There is no constant exponential rising CO2-concentration since preindustrial times but a variing CO2-content of air following the climate. E.G. around 1940 there was a maximum of CO2 of at least 420 ppm, before 1875 there was also a maximum.”

    Who knows it may start to fall despites mans efforts?

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