“Giving Global Warming The Cold Shoulder”…Central European Winters Have Cooled Last 30 Years!

We’re always hearing from the European media how winters supposedly have been getting warmer. Yet when we look out the window and look at the hard data, the claim crumbles.

Atlanta ice box, 8-15 cm of snow!

Today snow is forecast across much of Europe. In the US Dr. Ryan Maue tweets if there is any place other than southern Florida where it is not snowing, and: “Atlanta suffering from 3-6″ of global warming today.”

Record low in Hokkaido

Kirye from Japan tweeted telling us that Ikutahara, Hokkaido Prefecture saw with a reading of -24°C the coldest December 9 temperature in at least 40 years:

Hokkaido temperatures giving CO2 the cold shoulder. Data Source: JMA.

-12°C and snow in the UK!

Meanwhile the UK Met Office has issued the amber warning as temperatures are forecast to plummet to -12°C and snow to pile up to 20 cm.

Of course all of the above do not come as any surprise to those who ignore the media climate propaganda and focus on the real data.

Cooling Central Europe winters past 30 years

The European Institute for Climate and Energy Friday posted on Germany mean winter temperature over the past 30 years. A vastly huge majority of Germans would tell you that Germany winters have gotten warmer – because of “global warming” – and so confirm they are only parroting the fake German news.

Yet, EIKE writes what the reality in Germany really is: “Winter has been giving global warming the cold shoulder“.

A chart of the last 30 winters from data from the German DWD national weather services show that German winters in fact have been cooling:

Chart: Josef Kowatsch.

Going back more than 100 years, since 1910, it is also clear that German mean winter temperatures have nothing to do with CO2:

Germany mean winter temperatures with smoothed polynomial trend curve. Chart: Josef Kowatsch.

So before the German DWD weather services and media blurt claims that winters are becoming warmer, they first ought to look at their own data. There hasn’t been any warming since “global warming” started being an issue at the end of the 1980s.

No winter warming elsewhere

The following charts of winter mean temperature depict locations well beyond Germany, showing Central England, Sapporo Japan, Östersund in Central Sweden, and Oymyakon, Eastern Siberia respectively:

No warming trends seen over the past 30 years at these locations. And the eastern Siberian permafrost is not going anywhere anytime soon, Stefan Krämpfe’s chart tells us.

Of course global temperatures as a whole have warmed since 1980, but it’s nothing that comes close to what the alarmists would like to have us believe. The truth is that there’s been very little warming at all since the late 1990s.

 

37 responses to ““Giving Global Warming The Cold Shoulder”…Central European Winters Have Cooled Last 30 Years!”

  1. Bitter&twisted

    I’m sure Sebastian can dredge up some suitably adjusted and homogenised temperature records to demonstrate that we are still all going to fry.

    1. ClimateOtter

      It would be similar to the claims that both the MWP and the LIA were ‘regional’ – even though more and more evidence that they were Global keeps popping up.

    2. tom0mason

      If he’s up to his usual form he will first disparage the researcher, or their organization, then claim ‘cherry-picking’ of something.
      And finally make some totally off the topic remark about someone else and their opinion/research etc., showing that this can not be true because…. distract, blather, distract, blather, blather…

      1. SebastianH

        It’s looks like you know Mr Kowatsch. Good analysis of his work.

        1. sunsettommy

          That is your real name?

  2. Bitter&twisted

    Suits me.

  3. SebastianH

    So before the German DWD weather services and media blurt claims that winters are becoming warmer, they first ought to look at their own data.

    Well, then let’s look at their data:
    https://www.dwd.de/DWD/klima/national/gebietsmittel/brdras_ttt_16_de.jpg

    What do you see?

    There hasn’t been any warming since “global warming” started being an issue at the end of the 1980s.

    Then let’s look at the mean temperatures for the whole year, shall we?
    https://www.dwd.de/DWD/klima/national/gebietsmittel/brdras_ttt_17_de.jpg

    Notice anything?

    Of course global temperatures as a whole have warmed since 1980, but it’s nothing that comes close to what the alarmists would like to have us believe. The truth is that there’s been very little warming at all since the late 1990s.

    Aha, you did notice it after all. But now the increase isn’t what “the alarmists” say it is? I don’t get, are you accusing the DWD of faking or exaggerating the warming?

    Also, it is called “global warming” for a reason. And since you didn’t reply last time: do you see any cooling or “stable” temperatures in these graphs?
    http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1979/mean:12/plot/hadcrut4nh/from:1979/mean:12/plot/hadcrut4sh/from:1979/mean:12

    and

    http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:1979/offset:-0.43/mean:12/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1979/offset:-0.26/mean:12/plot/rss/mean:12/offset:-0.13/plot/uah6/mean:12

    1. AndyG55

      Real global temperatures (as opposed to GISS) have been flat for 33 of the 39 years of the Satellite data

      The only warming has come from the two El Nino events.

      No warming before the 1998 El Nino

      https://s19.postimg.org/iwoqwlg1f/UAH_before_El_nino..png

      No warming between the 1998 and 2015 El Nino

      https://s19.postimg.org/b9yx58cxf/UAH_after_El_nino..png

      There is NO CO2 warming signal in the satellite data set.

      And seb is STILL to produce a paper that shows empirically that CO2 causes warming in a convectively controlled atmosphere.

      So sad and pathetic that he cannot even support the very basis of his wonky irrational AGW religion.

      1. SebastianH

        Oh Andy, how did I miss these exchanges. Can you please explain how an El Nino Event is capable of causing a lasting warming? Thank you.

        1. AndyG55

          Empty attention-seeking seb…As always

          GROW UP !!

          1. SebastianH

            And? No answer is an answer too, you know …

          2. AndyG55

            Poor EMPTY, attention-seelking seb

            No evidence that CO2 causes warming..

            Oh dear.. what a baseless religion you worship..

        2. sunsettommy

          Sebastian, he already pointed out that it only warms when there is an El-Nino ongoing.

          He posted you two charts showing it. Why NO warming between them,where there is always CO2 around,when there is no El-Nino,ongoing? Yet all that blabbed warm forcing effect of CO2/CH4 doesn’t seem to show up in the record.

          Why do you keep missing the obvious?

          1. SebastianH

            Sebastian, he already pointed out that it only warms when there is an El-Nino ongoing.

            I am assuming you live where it is currently winter. What happens when you turn up your thermostat and increase your indoor temperature by 1 degree. Is that a one-time warming or will you use more heating power to keep that higher temperature?

            So please explain how a one-time event like an El Nino can cause a continued warming effect.

            Why NO warming between them,where there is always CO2 around,when there is no El-Nino,ongoing?

            A very large percentage of the forcing increase goes into the oceans. Also, you seem to forget that without the CO2 forcing we would have a slight cooling (as the Sun is less active).

          2. Kenneth Richard

            A very large percentage of the forcing increase goes into the oceans.

            And as you’ve acknowledged, there is no real-world scientific experiment that provides measurements to show how much or how little or if at all a change in atmospheric CO2 concentrations heats or cools water bodies when varied in volumes of parts per million, or +/- 0.000001. So it’s a hypothetical conceptualization that CO2 is the dominant cause of the heating and cooling of ocean temperatures.

            http://icdc.cen.uni-hamburg.de/uploads/pics/hc_fig2.jpeg
            Curiously, as the Gouretski et al. (2012) graph shows above, there was a dramatic increase (~1.3 C) in the ocean warming for the 0-20 m near surface layer between 1900 and 1945. From 1945 to 2010, however, the global ocean near surface temperatures only warmed by another 0.3 C. Interestingly, between 1900 and 1945, human CO2 emissions remained relatively flat and low (~1 GtC/year). After 1945, CO2 emissions exploded, reaching 9 GtC/year by the 2010s. This elicits two questions that I’d like to see if you can answer…since you’ve dodged them every time I’ve asked in the past.

            1. What was the physical mechanism that caused the dramatic +1.3 C warming in the 0-20 m layer between 1900 and 1945? Be specific.
            2. What is the reason why the temperatures in the global ocean near surface layer only warmed by 0.3 C in the 65 years between 1945 and 2010 if human CO2 emissions are providing substantially more forcing than any other natural factor…and those same natural factors led to an ocean warming about 5 or 6 times greater (+0.29 C per decade vs. +0.046 C per decade) during the first 4.5 decades of the 20th century?
            3. What is the physical mechanism that caused the 3 decades of cooling of the near surface between 1945 and 1975?

            you seem to forget that without the CO2 forcing we would have a slight cooling (as the Sun is less active).

            At what point did the Sun cause cooling? Between 1945 and 1975, CO2 emissions grew by a factor of 4 while the oceans cooled (Gouretski et al., 2012). So if the Sun caused that cooling, what caused the 1900 to 1945 warming, when CO2 emissions hovered around just 1 GtC/yr? Again, be specific in identifying the mechanism.

          3. SebastianH

            So it’s a hypothetical conceptualization that CO2 is the dominant cause of the heating and cooling of ocean temperatures.

            About as hypothetical as whether or not a car driving at 100 km/h will hit the wall its driving towards to or will manage to break and come to a stop before crashing into the wall.

            The car exists and it is not going to “evoporate”. That’s the hypothetic thing about this situation.

          4. Kenneth Richard

            About as hypothetical as whether or not a car driving at 100 km/h will hit the wall its driving towards to or will manage to break and come to a stop before crashing into the wall.

            We’ve observed (real world) what happens to a car traveling at 100 km/h into a wall. We can measure the force of impact, assess the damage to the vehicle, etc. We have not observed what happens to the temperature of a body of water when the CO2 concentration above it is altered by 10 parts per million (0.00001). No temperature-change measurements exist. The effects are assumed, based on models. Therefore, your concocted “analogy” is perhaps one of the most irrelevant comparisons imaginable.

            The car exists and it is not going to “evoporate”.

            I understand why you feel the need to make up claims about cars evaporating…because you cannot actually answer the real question about how much a body of water would cool if the CO2 concentration above it was reduced by 10 ppm. You have no measurements because you have no real world data to offer.
            —————————–
            I asked you several questions related to mechanisms of ocean warming relative to your beliefs about CO2 and its measurable water heating capacity. Not surprisingly, you decided to dodge these questions once again. You do this every time I ask. So I’ll just ask again in case you turn courageous.

            http://icdc.cen.uni-hamburg.de/uploads/pics/hc_fig2.jpeg
            Curiously, as the Gouretski et al. (2012) graph shows above, there was a dramatic increase (~1.3 C) in the ocean warming for the 0-20 m near surface layer between 1900 and 1945. From 1945 to 2010, however, the global ocean near surface temperatures only warmed by another 0.3 C. Interestingly, between 1900 and 1945, human CO2 emissions remained relatively flat and low (~1 GtC/year). After 1945, CO2 emissions exploded, reaching 9 GtC/year by the 2010s. This elicits two questions that I’d like to see if you can answer…since you’ve dodged them every time I’ve asked in the past.

            1. What was the physical mechanism that caused the dramatic +1.3 C warming in the 0-20 m layer between 1900 and 1945? Be specific.
            2. What is the reason why the temperatures in the global ocean near surface layer only warmed by 0.3 C in the 65 years between 1945 and 2010 if human CO2 emissions are providing substantially more forcing than any other natural factor…and those same natural factors led to an ocean warming about 5 or 6 times greater (+0.29 C per decade vs. +0.046 C per decade) during the first 4.5 decades of the 20th century?
            3. What is the physical mechanism that caused the 3 decades of cooling of the near surface between 1945 and 1975?

            you seem to forget that without the CO2 forcing we would have a slight cooling (as the Sun is less active).

            At what point did the Sun cause cooling? Between 1945 and 1975, CO2 emissions grew by a factor of 4 while the oceans cooled (Gouretski et al., 2012). So if the Sun caused that cooling, what caused the 1900 to 1945 warming, when CO2 emissions hovered around just 1 GtC/yr? Again, be specific in identifying the mechanism.

          5. AndyG55

            “A very large percentage of the forcing increase goes into the oceans. Also, you seem to forget that without the CO2 forcing we would have a slight cooling “

            Two totally erroneous and unsupportable statements in one sentence, seb.

            Just MAKE IT UP as you go along.

            You have yet to provide empirical evidence that CO2 causes any warming at all in our convective atmosphere.

            And you know that there is NO WAY in which CO2 can warm the oceans.

            You also seem to think that the oceans aren’t a massive store of solar energy that will take quite a while to cool to match the current low solar cycle. Only an ignorant fool would expect them to react immediately.

            You truly do live in your own little make-believe FANTASY world, little seb.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s_YFLI4G1M

            Its PATHETIC, but it all that you have, isn’t it.

          6. SebastianH

            Therefore, your concocted “analogy” is perhaps one of the most irrelevant comparisons imaginable.

            Seriously, your argument here is equal to saying the energy from the driving car will have little to no impact. No heating of the break discs and definetly no transfer to the wall (crash).

            There is no way to go for the additional W/m² forcing. It has an effect somewhere and is causing the heat content to increase. That’s the nature of forcing.

            What was the physical mechanism that caused the dramatic +1.3 C warming in the 0-20 m layer between 1900 and 1945? Be specific.

            Honestly, who cares? At the CO2 concentration of that distant past, probably not CO2 forcing or just a small part of it.

            What is the reason why the temperatures in the global ocean near surface layer only warmed by 0.3 C in the 65 years between 1945 and 2010 if human CO2 emissions are providing substantially more forcing than any other natural factor…and those same natural factors led to an ocean warming about 5 or 6 times greater (+0.29 C per decade vs. +0.046 C per decade) during the first 4.5 decades of the 20th century?

            Wasn’t there a snopes article about your interesting way of mixing up past and present and your excellent interpretation skills? https://www.snopes.com/400-papers-published-in-2017-prove-that-global-warming-is-myth/

            What is the physical mechanism that caused the 3 decades of cooling of the near surface between 1945 and 1975?

            Another “who cares?” for you.

            Those things are interesting, but they have little to do with the human caused CO2 forcing. You seem to think that CO2 is the only thing that is influencing temperature/climate, or at least you think that I think that. Well, just read the Snopes article linkes above.

          7. Kenneth Richard

            Seriously, your argument here is equal to saying the energy from the driving car will have little to no impact.

            No, the energy associated with driving a car has literally nothing to do with the actual subject: real-world observations/measurements demonstrating how much/little/if at all variations in airborne CO2 heat or cool water bodies. Obviously all you have are irrelevant analogies to try to distract from the fact that you have no real world observation or measurements to support your beliefs. My argument is not “equal” to your concocted car analogy. Your evasion tactic didn’t work.

            There is no way to go for the additional W/m² forcing.

            In other words, your beliefs are unfalsifiable. Your beliefs have to be true…because there is no way they could be wrong. Even though we have no real world observational evidence or measurements to verify them.

            What was the physical mechanism that caused the dramatic +1.3 C warming in the 0-20 m layer between 1900 and 1945? Be specific.

            Honestly, who cares?

            This is a pathetic response. And, of course, you cannot bring yourself to identify a mechanism. “Who cares?” is an evasion fit for primary age children.

            Wasn’t there a snopes article

            Um, “snopes” has about as much credibility here as Al Gore’s movies do.

            Another “who cares?” for you.

            You’re on a roll. You’d be laughed out of a high school debate class with responses like these.

            Those things are interesting, but they have little to do with the human caused CO2 forcing.

            They have everything to do with the alleged human-caused ocean temperature changes. If the oceans warmed 5 or 6 times as much from some natural mechanism (that you refuse to identify because…Who cares?) than they did from alleged human forcing, then the natural mechanism can be assumed to exert a much greater influence on ocean temperatures than humans can. Since this violates your beliefs about humans predominantly causing the oceans’ temperatures, your response necessarily has to be “Who cares?” when asked about the natural mechanism(s). You can’t even identify what caused the ocean temperatures to cool between 1945 and 1975, as you know this also violates your beliefs. (CO2 emissions increased by 400% between 1945 and 1975 just as ocean temperatures were cooling.)

            You seem to think that CO2 is the only thing that is influencing temperature/climate

            Uh, no, I don’t think that. What caused the 1.3 C of warming of 0-20 m ocean temperatures between 1900 and 1945, SebastianH? What’s the mechanism? “Who cares?” is a joke of a response.

    2. AndyG55

      “it is called “global warming” for a reason”

      But it isn’t global.

      No warming in places not affected by Ocean cycles and events

      Japan hasn’t warmed for 20 year

      https://s19.postimg.org/s9bwikr0z/Japan_post_1998.png

      A slight regional step around 1990, but before that, there was no warming right back to 1950

      https://s19.postimg.org/6kzq5cxdf/japan1950-1990.png

      Antarctica has cooled slightly over the last 40 years.

      Most NH countries are around the same temperature as in the 1940’s (barring data adjustment)

      1. Colin MacDonald

        I would say hemispherical warming as the Southern Hemisphere hasnt warmed significantly. Certainly it seems that here in North West Europe we’ve had warming over the last 30 years. However not even the mist ardent warmist can deny the medium term variability of climate, specifically a 60 year cycle, temperatures peaked in the 1940’s and again 10 years ago. Before we can claim long term warming we need to be confident about temperatures back in the last 70years, alas the data has been fiddlex with so much we can’t say with confudence what the warming trend has been or even whether it exists.

  4. Newminster

    You seem to have omitted the Central England chart, Pierre. Given the activist bent of the Met Office and the BBC it would be useful to have it included.

  5. yonason (from my cell phone)

    Wow. The last time Atlanta had a couple of inches of snow, there was an overnight traffic jam. Good thing my drive through there this year was last week. I missed the last one by about a week, as well. Whew!

  6. Steve

    It is snowing in Florida and Mexico.
    Apparently it is going to be quite hot in Sydney today.
    Should I go surfing or skiing ?
    I think I will just hop in my jet and go for ski.

  7. AndyG55

    Australia just had its 29th warmest November in the 39 years of the UAH data set.

    1. AndyG55
  8. John F. Hultquist

    Here in Washington State — central part east of the Cascade Crest we are under High Pressure. It is -3°C at 4 P.M.
    There is no snow, but the sky is very overcast with an air stagnation warning.
    No wind = no wind power, see here:
    https://transmission.bpa.gov/business/operations/wind/baltwg.aspx

    1. sunsettommy

      Yeah it is BORING weather in the Tri Cities area……

  9. Edward

    It’s pretty cold here in the N of England expecting it to be colder over next few days, it’s good for the soil and good to kill off certain bugs, unfortunately it wont kill of the greenflies of the UK SJW watermelon colony.

  10. Frederick Colbourne

    The 3rd graph seems to indicate at 60-year cycle. This would probably be the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO).

    In my opinion, the entire global-warming scare is a misinterpretation of the date, based on internal variability, not man-made at all.

    See graph above: Germany mean winter temperatures with smoothed polynomial trend curve by Josef Kowatsch.

  11. Steve

    I love a sunburnt country
    a land of sweeping plains
    of ragged mountain ranges
    Of droughts and flooding rains…. Mackellar My Country (Australia)

    Not sure of date written probably 1900

    Nothing has changed