Kommentare für NoTricksZone http://notrickszone.com Not here to worship what is known, but to question it. Climate news from Germany in English - by P Gosselin Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:30:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Kommentar zu Klimaretter Blog Continues Quoting Fake Document To Smear Heartland And Watts – Even 36 Hours After Confession! von GregO http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/22/klimaretter-blog-continues-quoting-fake-document-to-smear-heartland-and-watts-even-36-hours-after-confession/#comment-81064 GregO Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:30:31 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16926#comment-81064 It is abundently clear the document is a fake. Here is a frank assessment from American MSM (rare...and the author is an avowed warmista): http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/peter-gleick-confesses-to-obtaining-heartland-documents-under-false-pretenses/253395/ Heartland has made it clear the document is fake. The only real question now is who forged it. It is not at all irrational to name Peter Gleick as a prime suspect as many have who are familiar with the topic based on their familiarity with Gleick's idiosyncratic writing style. I for one would like to see a proper (criminal) investigation conducted and am interested in finding out the truth as to who forged the fake document. It is an interesting story and it is fascinating to hear how this is being "spun" in Germany. I wonder how this will develop in German media once the truth starts making a dent in the propaganda machine - do you think there is enough sustained interest in this story for the public to wait for the truth to sink in? It is abundently clear the document is a fake. Here is a frank assessment from American MSM (rare…and the author is an avowed warmista):

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/peter-gleick-confesses-to-obtaining-heartland-documents-under-false-pretenses/253395/

Heartland has made it clear the document is fake. The only real question now is who forged it. It is not at all irrational to name Peter Gleick as a prime suspect as many have who are familiar with the topic based on their familiarity with Gleick’s idiosyncratic writing style. I for one would like to see a proper (criminal) investigation conducted and am interested in finding out the truth as to who forged the fake document.

It is an interesting story and it is fascinating to hear how this is being “spun” in Germany. I wonder how this will develop in German media once the truth starts making a dent in the propaganda machine – do you think there is enough sustained interest in this story for the public to wait for the truth to sink in?

]]> Kommentar zu Klimaretter Blog Continues Quoting Fake Document To Smear Heartland And Watts – Even 36 Hours After Confession! von Ulrich Elkmann http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/22/klimaretter-blog-continues-quoting-fake-document-to-smear-heartland-and-watts-even-36-hours-after-confession/#comment-81041 Ulrich Elkmann Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:16:33 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16926#comment-81041 No, Gleick has not yet admitted to faking the position paper - his laywer will have counseled him strongly against it - or he is simply convinced that typing on a keyboard leaves no electronic fingerprints or timestamps; he is in deep enough water legally as things stand; but every sign points to him being the culprit. Does anyone else start to feel sorry for these guys? They thought they had a comeuppance for Climategate; having it blow up in their faces is ... *embarrassing* ...; failing to notice that is has blown up in their faces is, ah, less than competent. And THESE guys came close to setting the majority of the most technologically advanced and scientifically literate portion of humanity off on a suicidal dive over the cliff? No, Gleick has not yet admitted to faking the position paper – his laywer will have counseled him strongly against it – or he is simply convinced that typing on a keyboard leaves no electronic fingerprints or timestamps; he is in deep enough water legally as things stand; but every sign points to him being the culprit.
Does anyone else start to feel sorry for these guys? They thought they had a comeuppance for Climategate; having it blow up in their faces is … *embarrassing* …; failing to notice that is has blown up in their faces is, ah, less than competent. And THESE guys came close to setting the majority of the most technologically advanced and scientifically literate portion of humanity off on a suicidal dive over the cliff?

]]> Kommentar zu How Skeptical Is Germany’s Next President? Joachim Gauck Shows Some Encouraging Signs von Ulrich Elkmann http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/21/how-skeptical-is-germanys-next-president-joachim-gauck-shows-some-encouraging-signs/#comment-81037 Ulrich Elkmann Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:51:01 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16881#comment-81037 As we say around here: "you're mostly welcome". As we say around here: “you’re mostly welcome”.

]]> Kommentar zu Klimaretter Blog Continues Quoting Fake Document To Smear Heartland And Watts – Even 36 Hours After Confession! von Mindert Eiting http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/22/klimaretter-blog-continues-quoting-fake-document-to-smear-heartland-and-watts-even-36-hours-after-confession/#comment-81025 Mindert Eiting Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:32:23 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16926#comment-81025 'a full day after Gleick confessed he had faked a document': I am not sure whether this is true, Pierre. Perhaps he had faked it but not confessed that. Perhaps I've missed something. I have written a letter to the editor of my newspaper about misleading information, e.g. that the documents were leaked as if Gleick was a whistleblower, a popular construction in the left media to give him kind of hero status. He was an outsider who has stolen confidential information after committing identity fraud. I'm looking forward whether they publish it. ‘a full day after Gleick confessed he had faked a document’: I am not sure whether this is true, Pierre. Perhaps he had faked it but not confessed that. Perhaps I’ve missed something. I have written a letter to the editor of my newspaper about misleading information, e.g. that the documents were leaked as if Gleick was a whistleblower, a popular construction in the left media to give him kind of hero status. He was an outsider who has stolen confidential information after committing identity fraud. I’m looking forward whether they publish it.

]]> Kommentar zu How Skeptical Is Germany’s Next President? Joachim Gauck Shows Some Encouraging Signs von Ed Caryl http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/21/how-skeptical-is-germanys-next-president-joachim-gauck-shows-some-encouraging-signs/#comment-81004 Ed Caryl Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:16:29 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16881#comment-81004 English is SO flexible. English is SO flexible.

]]> Kommentar zu How Skeptical Is Germany’s Next President? Joachim Gauck Shows Some Encouraging Signs von Bernd Felsche http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/21/how-skeptical-is-germanys-next-president-joachim-gauck-shows-some-encouraging-signs/#comment-80996 Bernd Felsche Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:18:52 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16881#comment-80996 Oh ... I see how it was misunderstood. I should have written "similar allergy to Gauck's." Apologies for the confuddlification. Oh … I see how it was misunderstood.
I should have written “similar allergy to Gauck’s.”

Apologies for the confuddlification.

]]> Kommentar zu Dutch Scientist Says 5th Report Draft Exemplifies “Worst Features of Science” – Calls For A Critical Review! von Mindert Eiting http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/21/dutch-scientist-says-5th-report-draft-exemplifies-worst-features-of-science-calls-for-a-critical-review/#comment-80983 Mindert Eiting Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:24:55 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16913#comment-80983 See for some more substance: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/22/omitted-variable-fraud-vast-evidence-for-solar-climate-driver-rates-one-oblique-sentence-in-ar5/#more-57212 See for some more substance:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/22/omitted-variable-fraud-vast-evidence-for-solar-climate-driver-rates-one-oblique-sentence-in-ar5/#more-57212

]]> Kommentar zu Dutch Scientist Says 5th Report Draft Exemplifies “Worst Features of Science” – Calls For A Critical Review! von Bob W in NC http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/21/dutch-scientist-says-5th-report-draft-exemplifies-worst-features-of-science-calls-for-a-critical-review/#comment-80975 Bob W in NC Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:29:52 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16913#comment-80975 To date, the entire charade of AGW (DAGW?) is exactly what one would expect if a criminal jury trial were held and... • the judge was biased for the prosecution • the jury was selected by the prosecution only • the prosecution screamed for conviction and presented supporting "evidence" unchallenged • reporters dutifully reported everything presented, shunning fact-checking • and the defence was barred from the courtroom... It sounds as though the defence is finally and greatfully making themselves known. To date, the entire charade of AGW (DAGW?) is exactly what one would expect if a criminal jury trial were held and…

• the judge was biased for the prosecution

• the jury was selected by the prosecution only

• the prosecution screamed for conviction and presented supporting “evidence” unchallenged

• reporters dutifully reported everything presented, shunning fact-checking

• and the defence was barred from the courtroom…

It sounds as though the defence is finally and greatfully making themselves known.

]]> Kommentar zu Harvard German Conference: Germany Attempting To Hawk Its Catastrophic Energy Strategy To The USA von archaeopteryx http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/17/harvard-german-conference-germany-attempting-to-hawk-its-catastrophic-energy-strategy-to-the-usa/#comment-80972 archaeopteryx Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:28:41 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16760#comment-80972 I love your titlte. A little casual internet search will show that Enron was a big fan of Kyoto, and that a Very Large European Company (which shall go unnamed lest there is a server crash) , which had decent ties with the Democrats, (who promoted public transport and other Green Schmreen projects) was in touch, or had used Enron to approach Republicans. This bit of trivia from a bankrupt corner were polticians are rumored to be habitually "approached" and are 2/3-3/4 AGW Greens. I love your titlte.

A little casual internet search will show that Enron was a big fan of Kyoto, and that a Very Large European Company (which shall go unnamed lest there is a server crash) , which had decent ties with the Democrats, (who promoted public transport and other Green Schmreen projects) was in touch, or had used Enron to approach Republicans.

This bit of trivia from a bankrupt corner were polticians are rumored to be habitually “approached” and are 2/3-3/4 AGW Greens.

]]> Kommentar zu Dutch Scientist Says 5th Report Draft Exemplifies “Worst Features of Science” – Calls For A Critical Review! von Edward. http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/21/dutch-scientist-says-5th-report-draft-exemplifies-worst-features-of-science-calls-for-a-critical-review/#comment-80970 Edward. Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:20:39 +0000 http://notrickszone.com/?p=16913#comment-80970 Dr. Rörsch said: "The IPCC’s draft AR5 report shows insufficient objectivity, and lacks the ‘traditional’ scientific balance necessary for it to be used as the basis for policy making. Regrettably, the report exemplifies some of the worst features of the ‘post-modern’ approach to science…” I couldn't have put it better myself.........however if I may quibble just a tad:- I suppose I could, WOULD have been a little bit more 'harsh' and a lot more derisive in fact but - in the end we reached similar conclusions even if we don't agree on strength and nuance of wording. IPCC AR5 [and not forgetting the others ie: 1-4] = CR@P. YES the AR5 is utter CR@P and in fact is not worth the toilet paper it was written on. I can't say fairer than that. Dr. Rörsch said:

“The IPCC’s draft AR5 report shows insufficient objectivity, and lacks the ‘traditional’ scientific balance necessary for it to be used as the basis for policy making. Regrettably, the report exemplifies some of the worst features of the ‘post-modern’ approach to science…”

I couldn’t have put it better myself………however if I may quibble just a tad:-

I suppose I could, WOULD have been a little bit more ‘harsh’ and a lot more derisive in fact but – in the end we reached similar conclusions even if we don’t agree on strength and nuance of wording.

IPCC AR5 [and not forgetting the others ie: 1-4] = CR@P.

YES the AR5 is utter CR@P and in fact is not worth the toilet paper it was written on.

I can’t say fairer than that.

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