Ultra-High Electric Bills for 0.0072°C Less Warming

Climate nonsense will lead to this trend in electricity prices.

German journalist Günter Ederer has a piece at the online Fuldaer Zeitung called The Electricity Bill Is Going Up And Up. Hat-tip Detmar Doering.

Politicians in all parties in Germany, from the communists to the conservatives, and everything in between, are all racing to be the first to jump off the let’s-save-the-climate cliff.

All have made rescuing the climate a target that absolutely has to be achieved – no matter the cost. Politicians of every stripe have pledged to cut Germany’s CO2 emissions 80% by 2050. Minister of the Environment Norbert Röttgen, of the conservative (in name only) party, even sets it up as a life and death matter, as absurd as it sounds:

That rescues our climate.

No kidding. Everything else takes a back seat to this imperative – consumers be damned. Taking the little guy to the cleaners in Germany knows no limits. And so, expensive green energy sources like wind and solar are being subsidized with total abandon, and consumers are getting the big-time shaft through skyrocketing electric bills- The government profits in the end. Ederer writes:

Renewable energy must be fed into the power grid at a mandated fixed price, which for the consumer will mean a price increase of 6 cents per kwh for 2011 alone.

What benefit will all this pain render consumers? It’s a fact that CO2 emissions globally are going to continue increasing, as most countries outside of Europe could give a rat’s rear about foregoing prosperity in order to play the make believe game of rescuing the planet.

If Germany succeeded in reducing its CO2 emissions 80% by 2050, what theoretical impact would it have on the environment? Ederer tells us:

If Germany reduced its share of CO2 by 80%, or even 100%, then it help to warm the planet 0.0072 °C less. As I said earlier, that’s if all figures and calculations of the IPCC are correct.

Meanwhile, the numbers are in from the German Weather Service. October 2010 was 0.9°C colder than average. If Germany’s greedy politicians get their way. This may someday be corrected to 0.9072°C cooler.

28 responses to “Ultra-High Electric Bills for 0.0072°C Less Warming”

  1. DirkH

    The motivation of the politicians becomes a little clearer when you know this – i posted it on WUWT but as it fits right in here, let me just repeat it:

    There is, BTW, a remarkable fact about the German renewable energy subsidy scheme. As the subsidy is taken from all electricity end users – ATM 2 eurocent per kWH, next year 3.5 – BEFORE VAT is added to the end price, the state profits from it. VAT is 20% here.

    In other words, it’s a convenient way to get at the money of notoriously thrifty Germans. The rise in the cross subsidy – from 2 to 3.5 cent – is obviously 75% a year, the total sum is about 8 billion Euro in 2010 so the state gets 20% of this in VAT, that’s 1.6 billion, and in 2011, 75% more, that’s 2.8 billion. So the state has a high interest in a rising subsidy, and in a continuation of the subsidy scheme.

  2. R. de Haan

    We have just witnessed a 180 degree policy change from Angela Merkel
    when she told the German people that more Mosques would be build in Germany followed by the short remark “Get used to it”.

    But when the polls came in and she found out that the entire base of her political party was in a melt down she came out to tell the public the Multi Kulti Experiment had failed.

    If Merkel can turn on a dime on the subject of immigration, she can do it on the subject of climate policies and regulations.

    The entire issue is still in the hands of the German people.

    The moment someone makes it clear to them that they have been conned, the walls of the AGW Scam will come down very quickly.

  3. R. de Haan
  4. Casper

    I’m asking myself where is the limit for acceptable robbing of German citizens? Someday the bubble will blow away…

    1. DirkH

      The absolute sums per person are still rather small. Bills will rise by about 6 euro per person and month in 2011. Our governments always use a death-by-a-thousand-cuts approach; this has worked out well for them in the past.

      1. Casper

        In contrast to the French I think the Germans are unable to revolt 😉

  5. Ike

    P. you need a tips and notes section like WUWT. 😉

    Schellnhuber is now into fuel:


  6. Ike

    look at the environment stats….its shocking!! 🙂


  7. Steve Koch

    The USA elections are tomorrow. All polls point to a crushing defeat for the Democrats. The Republicans are getting overwhelming political success, which has not been hurt by opposing cap and trade (i.e. energy taxes, roughly). If it works in the USA, maybe the same tactic can work in Germany.

    Clearly, if the USA, China, and India continue to do nothing about reducing CO2, then European efforts to reduce CO2 are a waste of time and very expensive for the average guy.

    1. DirkH

      When Americans have problems, they call for the government to get out of the way. When Germans have problems, they call for more government. Trust me on that one.

      We seem to have a higher prevalence of the DRD4 gene (you know – the one that causes leftism).

  8. Climate Change Dis-Education At German Primary Schools

    […] The clip says: “thanks to the program, kids now better understand why storms are caused and that each person can make an “enormous contribution in reducing the earth’s fever”.  Indeed. In fact, Germany cutting its CO2 emissions by 80% by 2050 will lead to the enormous temperature reduction of 0.0072°C. […]

  9. Günther Vennecke

    German journalist Günter Ederer seems to be a bit of a moron. He actually claims that 96% of the atmosphere’s CO2 stem from natural sources and we humans have only added 4%.

    Is it really worth listening to someone who is so ignorant of the basic facts of climate?

    P.S.: For those of you who don’t know either: Due to the burning of fossil fuels and the depletion of rain forests atmospheric CO2 has risen from about 280 ppm to a current 390 ppm level. That is an increase of nearly 40%. Our annual output is 1 – 2% of what is already there (roughly 9 billion tons as opposed to about 800 billion tons of carbon). Ederer’s 4% do not fit anywhere, he simply does not know what he is talking about.

  10. Günther Vennecke

    @R. de Haan,

    thanks for the link to the Guardian article which holds this remarkable piece:

    “The investigative zeal is fuelled by the rise of Tea Party candidates for whom climate change denial verges on an article of faith.

    “I think a clear majority does not accept human causality in climate change. It’s definitely not within the orthodoxy of conservatism as presented by Sarah Palin and folks like her,” Bob Inglis, a Republican member of the house science and technology committee who lost to a Tea Party candidate, told NPR.”

    Sarah Palin? Would anybody in their right mind side with someone like that? Naturally she is not convinced of AGW because she “knows” that Earth is only 6000 years old and her god runs the hole affair including weather and climate.

  11. R. de Haan

    Günther Vennecke,

    I personally have absolutely no connection with the religious side of the Tea Party. I only underline their concept of small government and freedom.

    But looking at the fact I came to the following conclusion.

    If the religious part of the Tea Party Movement is able to fight the religion of AGW and builds opposition against the Radical Islam, I can live with that.
    Let’s say it takes donkey’s to fight donkey’s.

    It does not hurt me or cost me any money if they believe the planet is only 6.000 years old. As long as they take care of their farms and live their lives in peace it’s fine with me.

  12. R. de Haan

    2. November 2010 at 07:14 | Permalink | Reply
    “In contrast to the French I think the Germans are unable to revolt”

    Casper, you obviously don’t know what German revolt means.
    Germans have a higher threshold but when they really get angry, you better take shelter.

    The last big revolts took place in NRW after WWI and the revolt of 1953
    Angry mineworkers accomplished what no standing army could achieve.
    They bombed the French and Belgium occupation forces out of the country.

    In 1953 the Germans protested the DDR in East Berlin.
    Unfortunately this revolt was violently suppressed by tanks.

    Revolts directed at Government and Government projects:
    The protests that stopped the fast breeder reactor in Kalkar, a multi billion project.
    The uprising against the establishment that resulted in the RAF
    and recently the protests to stop the Deutsche Bahn Project in Stuttgart

  13. Günther Vennecke

    @R. de Haan,

    are you really convinced that some 80plus million people fit your description to a T?

    I do not think that it is possible the come up with any characteristic that justly describes “the German people”. I will not go into any details but what you say above is mostly a falsification of history.

    What you say about the Kalkar reactor (which would not have been a breeder at all, because it was devised to consume more plutonium than to produce) is just a stab-in-the-back-legend, propagated by right-wing adherents of nuclear power. The truth is that the Kalkar reactor proved to be a technical failure and financial disaster and for that reason only was trashed.

    If your version were true how do you account for the fact that the nuclear loo at Gorleben is still being considered in spite of the massive protests that were launched against it?

  14. R. de Haan
  15. R. de Haan

    Günther Vennecke

    My only objective was to make Casper clear that Germans do protest.
    I have no purpose or interest at all to falsify history, I just mentioned the protest that took place. So don’t corner me on details about the Kalkar project, fact is it was halted and sold for 1 DM and now is a successful entertainment park. I personally think that the Chernobil disaster had a bigger effect on German politics than the protests.

    Goreleben of course is a very hot potato.
    The underground storage is such a mess that it will take billions and probably new robot technology to clean it up.

    Fortunately shale gas development took off this year and Germany has lot’s of it.

    We won’t need any nuclear based power if the full shale gas potential is tapped.

    But who informs the German public?

  16. Günther Vennecke

    @R. de Haan

    “Goreleben of course is a very hot potato.
    The underground storage is such a mess that it will take billions and probably new robot technology to clean it up.

    Fortunately shale gas development took off this year and Germany has lot’s of it.

    We won’t need any nuclear based power if the full shale gas potential is tapped.

    But who informs the German public?”

    The real question is “Who informs you?”

    You are misinformed about a lot of things besides the climate issue.

    There is no mess at Gorleben as yet, you are mistaking it for Asse the salt mine that has been used as a repository for years and then got flooded. As to date no nuclear waste was stored underground at Gorleben.

    Shale gas is more of an empty promise than anything else. There is some of it that can be extracted but it is far from being more than a large drop in the ocean.

    Just do a little research at websites that are more reliable than this one and eike. For a start you could go to http://www.enerbulletin.net and type in “shale gas”. There you might get information that is not to your liking.

    The German people have probably not been “informed” about shale gas, because it is not any issue of importance. The blogosphere ist nothing to go by because most of the “information” there is grossly distorted by people with an agenda and the climate deniers lead the way.

  17. Laurie Williams

    So “the climate deniers lead the way”.

    Like many other thinking people, I deny the basis of the hoax of “man made global warming”, but I do not deny climate.

    I have less than zero respect for anyone who describes me as a “climate denier”. Those who are readily fooled by guilt driven scams like socialism and “climate change” are also readily fooled into obediently applying stupid labels.

  18. R. de Haan
  19. Günther Vennecke

    @Pierre Gosselin

    “Afraid of Sarah?”

    Certainly not. I do hope she will become the next presidential cadidate of the G.O.P. This would ensure that all intelligent Republicans vote Democrat in the next election.

  20. Günther Vennecke

    @Laurie Williams,

    when you deny AGW then you only think you are thinking.

    Those who call AGW a hoax certainly show no sign of independent judgement but only display wishful thinking. You merely hope – despite the facts – that AGW ist not true, so you can continue your extravagant and wasteful lifestyle without feeling bad about it.

    Who gives you the right to deny decent living conditions to the majority of mankind who do not even have clean drinking water, because we people in the industrialised countries depend on their poderty tp provide for our riches?

    Cheap energy, cheap raw materials and cheap “third world” labour are what our standard of living is based on. Obviously you live under the delusion that this state of affairs can be perpetuated forever. Don’t you think it is time to wake up and accept reality?

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