Growing climate skepticism in Europe… An inconvenient tree found in the Alps shows climate was warmer 6000 years ago.
A recent video from the German language channel Report24news features Dr. Johannes Steiner, who discusses the discovery of ancient biological material (a large tree log) under retreating glaciers and its implications for the current climate narrative.
Image cropped from Report 24
In 2014, a massive Swiss stone pine (Zirbe) log weighing 1.7 tons was found in the retreat area of the Pasterze glacier at an altitude of 2,060 meters [03:16]. The tree from which the log originates is dated to be 6,000 years old.
Dr. Steiner points out that no trees of this size can grow at that altitude today because it is currently just too cold [03:27], suggesting that 6,000 years ago, temperatures in the Alps were significantly warmer than now [07:07]. That’s evidence that climate alarmists would prefer to censor.
Natural climate cycles
The presence of such biological material is undeniable evidence that glaciers have historically expanded and retreated in natural cycles long before industrial CO2 emissions [04:10].
Dr. Steiner argues against the “climate catastrophe” label for warming, asserting that historically, “cold periods” were the true catastrophes marked by famine, while “warm periods” (like the Medieval Warm Period) facilitated cultural and biological growth where scoieties flourished [05:40].
While acknowledging CO2 is a greenhouse gas, Dr. Steiner claims its contribution to global warming is minimal compared to water vapor, which is accepted by scienitsts as the dominant and necessary greenhouse gas for a habitable planet [10:41].
The video argues that the current focus on CO2 is mostly a “political-medial” construct used by the state to justify higher taxes and to “squeeze” citizens [22:08].
Over 50% believe climate change driven naturally
Moreover, Dr. Steiner references a February 2025 Special Eurobarometer (557), noting a shift in public perception. He claims that in several EU countries (e.g., Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland), over 50% of people now believe climate change is driven by natural causes rather than human activity [16:26].
In Austria, the percentage of people attributing climate change to natural causes has reportedly risen by 13% since 2021, reaching 43% [16:44].
The discussion concludes with a critique of rising energy costs and taxes. They argue that climate-related taxes disproportionately hurt the financially weak, while politicians remain unaffected by high fuel prices [23:03].
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1 tree in 1 location hardly makes a solid shipment that global temps were much higher 6000 years ago does it?
Try this:
https://pubs.aina.ucalgary.ca/arctic/Arctic29-1-38.pdf
Historical Aspects of the Northern Canadian Treeline
mmm… And why did that One tree in Mann´s Hockey Stick was treated as gospel…., You don´t can have it both ways. But then that is logical and you have an problem with that.
So thats your punch line. Well, three thousand meter are three thousand meter above sea level. Right? Of course there are differences longtudinally. But even at the Kilimanjaroo (you know, close to the equator) has seriously low temperatures at 3000m. Next point. Molecules neither need Visas nor Passports they cross borders without asking. Same principle as the stupidity of lowering CO2 in Europe by outsourcing the dirty part to CHina. Doesn´t change a thing. But, I have to admit that thinking out of the box is uncomfortable at times. Mann was just a liar manipulating old data so he´s no equation for a solid 6.000 year old tree That tree is honest.
At your Service Willem.
Check out my https://wermenh.com/climate/6000.html , a page I started when I saw two or three similar reports one weekend. I have references to Greenland, Canada, USA, Peru, and Antarctica. I’m about to add this page.
Thanks, Ric.
One piece of solid evidence contrary to a hypothesis defeats that hypothesis. Not saying for sure that is the case here.
Maybe ancient indigenous people helicoptered the large log up to the mountain. Or it could have floated there in a biblical flood.
No but it does supply evidence supporting the hypothesis that warming is cyclical.
so now do Yamal
I can find photos of the area, but not of the tree.
There must be pictures. I wonder if they did a cross-section?
There is extensive evidence of Alpine warming and cooling periods, far more than one log. For example:
https://rclutz.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/9749f-06theworldofclimatechange.jpg
Shows that stone age people had a sense of humour. They went to all that trouble to haul a log up an alpine pass to make people in the distant future think that it was warm back then.
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Oh boy, there we go again. One tree ≠ global climate. Yes, the mid‑Holocene had local, seasonal warmth, mostly orbital‑driven. It was not hotter globally than today. Quoting opinion polls about ‘natural causes’ proves nothing either. At one time 99% believed the Earth was flat. Science isn’t democracy. Real, quantifiable evidence beats anecdotes and headcounts.
8000 years ago the oceans were 5 meters higher than today; all over the world of course. The reason for that was GLOBAL warming.
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A une époque aussi il y avait un consensus scientifique pour dire que le soleil tournait autour de la terre. Ceux qui disaient le contraire étaient qualifiés d’hérétiques (on dirait aujourd’hui complotiste).
Le consensus scientifique d’une époque ne vaut parfois pas mieux que “les anecdotes et les sondages”.
that was during the Stone Age. Ban stones.
For the deniers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum