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“Of the remaining 225 tide gauges in the NOAA database, there are at least 100 located in regions where sea levels are stable (no significant change in either direction) or falling. ”
out of all data, i choose only the data that supports my opinion. then i analyse that data, and find out that it supports my opinion!
Science has just been reinvented!
And you’re drawing a conclusion that suits your opinion. The post merely tells us that SLR is not a problem for many places.
i actually agree with that point. Sea level is one of my smallest problems with AGW. It is pretty far in the future.
But the method is really really bad.
What an interesting comment, because I would have thought that sea level rise was the only issue of concern.
Obviously there can be no concern that temperatures become hotter by 2 or 4 or 6 degrees. All life can cope with that as it has in the past, and is demonstrated by the fact that life regularly exists in places where temperatures touch 50 degC. We can easily adjust our clothing (don’t forget that the only reason we wear clothes is because the planet is far too cold for us, so we have had to adapt ourselves in order to survive) and install aircon as necessary.
Everything we know about life on planet Earth and the history of civilisation points to more warmth the better. It is no coincidence that the largest land animals are found in the equitorial region, and as one goes to higher latitudes animal get smaller. No animal can live even in the Arctic, those that do either migrate if they can or go into hibernation and hope to wake up once more when the chills of winter are over. For many animals, the last time they see daylight is when the sun sets in late Autumn. The only reason the polar bear can live there is that it feeds off the sea, not off the land, and it also semi hibernates.
The history of civilisation and advancement of man shows a temperature dependent pattern, so for example, Egyptians, Minoans, Greeks, Romans, Northern Europe. The first advanced advanced Northern civilisation was that of the Vikings, and they rose to prominence in the Viking?Medieval Warm Period. the pattern of the bronze age to iron age followed a similar course. man only significantly devloped as a species when the interglacial, the Holocene, came along.
to take an example, there could be no concern that temperatures in Germany rose to that seen in Spain. After all Germans regularly holiday in Spain, and have a large expat community living in the Spanish Costas.
If your concern is not sea level rise, what concern do you have regarding AGW and why. The only significant negative that I can think of with a warming world is sea level rise, and as you rightly note this is very gradual and we have plenty of time to adapt in such places that require adaption (many will not).
“to take an example, there could be no concern that temperatures in Germany rose to that seen in Spain. After all Germans regularly holiday in Spain, and have a large expat community living in the Spanish Costas. ”
in the past, people mostly avoided climate change by moving. can you spot the problem?
“in the past, people mostly avoided climate change by moving. can you spot the problem?”
Most of the warmer places are over-crowded, is that the point you are trying to make?
Waiting for sob-sob to start yapping from Siberia, rather than his fossil fuel heated inner-city ghetto basement.
“After all Germans regularly holiday in Spain, ”
Now why would they do that.?
During winter in the NH , no doubt.
Do you know why ?
Can you even guess ??
No, I cannot spot the problem. It appears that you have very little appreciation of humans, and their way of life.
We as a species evolved in the warmth of Ethiopia/the Sudan, and this is the type of climate that we as a species prefer. It is a very warm climate.
Most people do not appreciate the vast differences in temperatures even across their own country. For example, in the UK, the spread of temperature between South and North is typically 6 to 9 degC. The South East is the most populated part of the UK. No one in the South East is moving to the Midland because it is 2 to 3 degC cooler, or to the North East because it is 4 to 5 degC cooler, or Scotland because it is 6 to 9 degC cooler.
Southern Spain is about 10 degC warmer than England. No one from Southern Spain is moving to England because they do not like the temperatures of the Southern Spain.
When people retire, they move to the warmth of the Mediterranean Coast, or to Florida, or the Caribbean or similar places. No one retires to the cold of Alaska or Siberia.
Temperatures are not a problem for us as a species since we are so adaptable. This enables us inhabit cold climates which are otherwise wholly unsuitable to us. We put on clothes, a T shirt in the Summer, a jumper in the Winter, a coat when we go outside. We can adapt our environment build our own caves, ie., house, to protect us from the elements. We can then build our camp fires, ie., central heating, to protect us from the cold of the Winter. If we did not adapt ourselves, or our environment, we would quickly die of hypothermia outside a very few places such as Ethiopia/the Sudan. tropical rain forests, the Aboriginal homelands of Australia etc.
There is no significant problem with temperature per se. Further, it is not that the days are getting hotter, merely that the night is a little less cold. It also appears that Autumn and Winter is starting a little later, and Spring coming a little earlier. What a fantastic thing. This type of warming is most welcome.
Yet further, there appears to be all but no warming in the tropical/equatorial regions, but rather warming in higher latitudes, particularly in the Northern hemisphere mid to high latitude. Again a pattern of warming that is most welcome.
If this is what is global warming (and there is nothing global about it) then this is truly a Godsend and most welcome.
We will have better growing seasons, again a most welcome thing. Don’t forget in countries like Egypt, on the banks of the Nile, they can grow 6 crops a year. This was why Egypt dominated, and was the bread/grain/harvest capital of the West right the way through not only ancient Egyptian times but also during the Roman Empire. It still today dominates the Middle East region.
Ask yourself why birds migrate flying south in winter, grazing cattle come down from the highlands to the lowlands in winter. Why people retire to warm climates, and not to cold climates. Why in the warm Jurassic period animals and insects were so large. Why are all the large land based mammals found in warm climates. Why is the Arctic Fox so small, why do animals hibernate when it is cold, and not when it is warm. Why is there all but no life in Antarctica. Why were those living in the warmth of Egypt able to build the Pyramids whereas those people living in the cold of Wiltshire only able to build Stonehenge?
So what is your biggest problem with a warmer pllanet? Higher crop yields? A greening Earth? Fewer hurricanes and storms? Fewer species extinctions? Lower energy use (it takes more energy to heat than cool)?
James Hansen believes sea levels will rise10 feet by 2065 Why do you believe he’s wrong about that?
“So what is your biggest problem with a warmer pllanet? Higher crop yields? A greening Earth? Fewer hurricanes and storms? Fewer species extinctions? Lower energy use (it takes more energy to heat than cool)? ”
yes. all effects of a temperature increase will be positive and 2000 countries fighting against the positive effects are all stupid while the one single country fighting for a temperature increase has a brilliant plan.
I guess you nailed it. Why not talk about skiing business?
In the real world, people have adapted to the climate that they live in for about 100 years. The idea that you change it and the main outcome is positive is moronic.
You didn’t answer the question, sod. You said sea level rise is the least of your worries. So what are the biggest problems with warmth that you have/foresee?
…2000 should be 200.
sorry for the typo
Yes, the vast majority of the 200 countries are stupid. You should list the countries which would face difficulties if temperatures rose by 2 degC , those by 3 deg c, those by 4 deg C etc.
The fact is that for a country such as Germany, or the UK, or for that matter any mid latitude country in Northern Hemisphere, any high latitude country in the Northern Hemisphere a warmer climate would be a Godsend.
It is only a few countries such as those in the warmest areas of Middle East where a warmer climate may be more negative, but then again this region of the planet is not exhibiting very much warming at all.
As you correctly observe sea level rise is not a significant problem, at worst it is an inconvenience and will require some expense on a local/regional basis adapting.
Atolls are not threatened by sea level rise since Atolls have come out of the sea. The process of formation, is such that they grow upwards out of the sea. there threat, if any, is the extraction of ground water from the interior which causes the Attols to collapse. If you look at local tide guages it is clear that they are not being engulfed by rising sea level.
The Climate Change alarm is not about climate change, it is political about the destruction of advanced Western ecconomies, and redistribution of wealth from developed nations to developing nations.
Method is good.
How about we see all this contrary evidence, sob-sob,
Or are you just yapping aimlessly again. !!
“How about we see all this contrary evidence, sob-sob,”
nothing but insults again.
the contrary evidence are the 60% NOT mentioned in this article. But they are just facts. Keep ignoring them!
It’s not a problem anywhere, except in a few spots where the land is sinking.
Sob, examine the world tide gauge data and tell us what year (or range of years) human generated CO2 changed the SLR rate.
Current Global sea level is the point of the article.
Your view of future global sea level is conjecture and no doubt you can tell us why you think so.
How the data is collected may be something to query if you know enough about sea level data collection.
Please enlighten us. You sound like a journalist at the moment unfortunately.
“You sound like a journalist at the moment unfortunately.”
For a primary school magazine.
I came across this recently and thought you might like to look at it.
It may have escaped your scrutiny. It would not perhaps appear on your search engine.
I come from a background which included the past changes in local climates and a small amount of physical geography. These subjects can be accessed these days on the internet if you widen your search criteria.
Politicians don’t bother as they have to observe party discipline.
News media take up political positions. So the rest of us including you are very much on our own and need to cultivate independent minds.
That page looks like its been hacked…
… starting about half way down.
Look at the 50 Year trend to see periodical changes due to something else.
How could possible CO2 have any impact on this?
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West coast is rising–sea levels fall. East coast is sinking–sea levels rise.
The point is that if there is no SLR in a significant number of locations, then SLR cannot be a GLOBAL phenomena. 45% to 65% is not insignificant. No reinvention of science, just basic logic.
[…] blog of the day is No Tricks Zone, with a post on what sea gauges really […]
[…] A few years ago, a comprehensive analysis of selection bias in tide gauge measurements between 1807-2010 indicated that (a) sea levels are only rising at a rate of about 1 mm/yr (as of 2010), and (b) a total of 65% of the world’s tide gauges have recorded stable to falling sea levels. Out of a database of over 2,100 tide gauge measurements available from the Permanent Service for Mean Sea Level, NOAA has selected 240 tide gauges for their analysis of global-scale sea level rise. Of these, there are about 15 gauges that did not extend far enough into the last few decades (for example, Latvia, Antarctica, Ghana, Colombia), precluding a recent trend analysis. Of the remaining 225 tide gauges in the NOAA database, there are at least 100 located in regions where sea levels are stable (no significant change in either direction) or falling. A graphical illustration of these non-trend tide gauge measurements is provided below. click here to read the story, see graphs 13:49 […]
sod 5. June 2017 at 7:27 PM
“in the past, people mostly avoided climate change by moving. can you spot the problem?”
I can. You’ve just admitted there’s nothing new under the sun
To say there is nothing new under the sun means there is nothing really new on the earth. All the activity of a man during his lifetime is lost in the grander scheme of things and will soon be forgotten (Ecclesiastes 1:11).
Great quote, clipe!!
What an admission from sod!
He says climate change is not new and in the past people mitigated any effects by moving.
I wonder, to cooler or warmer climes?
I wonder why sod has an aversion to the same solutions now?
He also said that many Germans holiday in Spain or move there..
Is it WARMER in Spain, perhaps ???
Don’t forget the many UK residents who head south to escape the British summer.
These comments are totally insane.
a climate change is not the same as going on holidays. I refuse to argue against stuff that is too stupid to be the argument of a 3 year old kindergarden child.
Truth is hard for you, isn’t it sob-sob.
Even admitting that people PREFER warm to cold, is beyond your inane AGW brain-washing.
btw… How’s your EV going?
How’s you fossil fuel heated inner city ghetto basement going?
I bet you had the heater going during winter.
Come on.. Don’t LIE or evade.
Land subsidence takes tide gauges with it, which makes sea levels appear higher.
Likewise, crustal rebound makes sea levels appear lower.
How is that accounted for, or do the authors care?
Tom very much the answer I believe. Lets face it – the only way sea level can rise is for more water to come from somewhere. that can only mean vast quantities of ice or snow melting somewhere since there is 70% ocean coverage of the sphere that would have to rise.
That is not the only way for the sea level to rise!
Sediment in vast quantities is continuously pouring in to the seas and oceans. The sediment obviously displaces water and necessarily causes a rise in sea level.
are you suggesting that this is relevant?
Are you suggesting it isn’t ????
Ice flowing naturally into the see is relevant..
…. but sediment , which builds massive deltas, clogs up harbours etc etc.. isn’t ?????
Ignorance of Archimedes’ Principle, as well, hey.
Really sob-sob.. is there anything to do with physics and reality that you are NOT ignorant of ??
How’s your EV going, btw ?
Are you suggesting it isn’t?
Everything is moving-even the continents.
Plate tectonics make some difference apart from rising and sinking land masses.
And thermal expansion.
But it is very complex given the temperature profile of the ocean.
Sod, please refer to this graph, prior to 8000 year ago is what you call sea level rise and acceleration thereof.
Try and get some education for goodness sake.
Great news for India, Australia and plant life around the world
Adani coal mine has finally got the go-ahead 🙂
I have also heard rumours of a new HELE coal fired power station to be built using coal from the mine, easing Queensland’s shortfall on energy supply construction over many years. 🙂
You heard that rumour on Jo Nova.
it is false.
Get serious sob-sob. !!
better to look at was business actually says rather than a far-left squawk-box.
It is an interview with the boss of an energy company. Please learn to read!
“MARTIN MOORE: Well, I think CS Energy certainly has no intention of building any coal-fired power plants, ultra-centre super-critical or not.
And it would surprise me greatly if there was any more coal-fired technology was built in Australia.
I think when you look at the risk of the investment, you’re talking about $2 billion-plus investment up-front. These assets have a plant life of roughly 40 years, and so it’s a very, very big long-term bet.
So given the current uncertainty, I think it would be a very courageous board that would invest in coal-fired technology in Australia. ”
One company guy doesn’t think so.
So what, change in political will as the system continues to get tighter and tighter on supply/demand is all it takes.
And a bit of guts to go against the Anti-CO2 agenda.
Coal is the only sensible way for Australia to solve its current energy supply problems.
How’s your EV going , sob-sob ?
Run and hide again.. or answer.
“Adani coal mine has finally got the go-ahead”
from your article:
“It’s also unclear whether Adani has secured finance to build the mine.
Queensland Greens Senator Larissa Waters said the announcement was a “PR stunt to squeeze a $1 billion handout from Australian taxpayers”.”
hey, coal needs cheap money and no one wants to invest. My advice is still the same: ALL IN! Do not miss this opportunity. Invest today and then harvest coal for 50 or 100 years. Nothing could go wrong!
Adani coal mine will go ahead.
Its only the totalitarian activists THREATENING lenders, as anti-human scum are wont to do.
And China and India and many other countries ARE investing.
Speaking of investing, how’s the EV purchase going.
What could possibly go wrong. 😉
Or is your only investment your hypocritical yapping ?
Adani will go ahead. India needs the coal, as do many other countries around the world.
Queensland is also turning back on an older gas fired station.. so more CO2 for all.
Coal fired power stations being built all over the place.
Pakistan, India, Vietnam, Africa, etc etc …the list goes on and on and on. China has overbuilt, while they work on transmission lines to Europe.
So don’t fret little sob-sob.. PLENTY of atmospheric CO2 for a long time to come 🙂
This development of a higher efficiency Coal fired power station looks to be of interest.
For conventional coal-fired power generation, heat from coal burned at a temperature of around 700 C produces steam, which rotates a turbine.
CoolGen’s plant is totally different as it roasts coal at above 1,300 C while simultaneously blowing oxygen over it in order to convert the solid fuel into a gas. The system can drastically cut the discharge of CO2 because it uses gas from the roasted coal to generate power instead of burning the rock.
The plant also makes use of exhaust heat, generated when power is produced, for power generation. In addition, it has a fuel cell power generation facility that extracts hydrogen from some of the gas and forces a reaction with oxygen to create electricity.
Using three energy sources — gas, exhaust heat and hydrogen — the plant can maximize some 55% of coal’s energy for power generation, compared with up to 40% for conventional coal-fired power generation stations.
Old but worth reading.
Testing the Waters
John L. Daly
June 19th 2000
A serious problem confronts any researcher who looks into the question of tides and sea levels, especially when searching for that elusive concept known as `mean sea level’, (MSL) or “Zero Point of the Sea” (as Captain Sir James Clark Ross, the 19th century British Antarctic explorer, called it ). Not only is it difficult to determine true MSL at any one location, it is even more difficult to detect any changes occurring with that level. For example, imagine attempting to measure mean sea level on a Hawaiian surfing beach. Sea level and tides work over longer timescales, but the essence of the problem is much the same. Study of sea level has now taken on a more urgent importance due to the predictions of sea level rise which might result from any global warming resulting from increased emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) .
Climate modelers and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) have predicted that one of the consequences of global warming will be rising sea levels due to thermal expansion of the ocean water mass and melting of non-polar glaciers  . They claim the oceans have already risen 18 cm during the 20th century, an annual rate of 1.8 mm/yr. They further predict that the oceans will rise a further 50 cm approximately during the 21st century , an accelerated annual rate of 5 mm/yr .
These predictions are now taking on hysterical proportions by policy institutions such as the EPA , who readily adopt a worse than `worst case’ scenario. They claim that a 1 meter sea level rise will inundate 7,000 square miles of dry land, 50-80% of U.S. wetlands, and cost over $270 – 475 billion in the U.S. alone. As a final touch, they claim their estimates `are almost certainly too low’.