Germany’s Green Party Takes A Beating In National Elections – Climate, Fear No Longer Important Issues

The preliminary results of Germany’s national election are rolling in. What’s sure is that Angela Merkel’s conservative CDU/CSU party is the winner, with projections showing them currently capturing a massive 42.5% of the votes.

Germany results

Preliminary, early results show the Greens (Grüne) collapsing to 8% (2009: 11%) thus eliminating the possibility of a socialist/green coalition government made up of the SPD/Greens. Source: www.tagesschau.de

The Green Party is among the big losers, with early projections showing them picking up only 8% of the vote. In 2009 they received almost 11%.

With climate change losing importance in Germany as an issue and the Energiewende (transition to renewable energy) turning into a chaos that threatens the country’s economic stability, the Greens, who were polling near 16% earlier in the year, have since lost almost half of their voter base.

In a reaction to the preliminary results, Green Party co-leader Katrin Göring-Eckardt said on ARD television that they “failed to convince voters of an ecological transition and sustainability“.

The element of fear, which the Greens have always effectively used in the past to motivate its voter base, was absent during the campaign as the issues of nuclear power and climate change didn’t play a role.

Read More: http://www.spiegel.de/merkel-wins general-election-exit-pollshtml

http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20130922-52031.html

 

31 responses to “Germany’s Green Party Takes A Beating In National Elections – Climate, Fear No Longer Important Issues”

  1. DirkH

    Just watched a bit of live state TV. FDP who got kicked out frantically trying to not mention that they lost their voters to AfD. Well all bloc party representants tried frantically to avoid naming the party that can’t be named.

    It’s all a sham, Linke, Greens, SPD, FDP and CDU are the same.

    The way to forge an election in Germany is BTW to sort out this or that ballot as invalid. I would not be surprised if this election sees more invalid ballots than any other in history. The AfD must be kept under 5% at all costs.

    After counting, the ballots get burned to not leave a trace.

  2. DirkH

    In the ongoing projections all parties go up and down a few tenths of a percent, only AfD stays fixed at 4.9%.

    Two possibilities, one is they will rig the results to their desired value; second is, their models don’t know what to do with AfD so they just fixed it in the projections.
    (It’s models until they have all the counts)

    I’m not entirely sure whether Germany is already corrupted enough for the first alternative.

    4.9 is just too convenient for the bloc parties.

  3. Twan Hendriks

    This doesn’t seem to be good news. Both options (FDP and AfD) for Merkel to form a centre-right wing cabinet are impossible. Both parties are, at the moment, under the 5% threshold. Leaving the SDP as a coalition partner.

    That is bad for the German and Northern European economies because it’ll probably mean that more money will go south.

    As for the environment. If I recall correctly then the SPD (as most socialists) are AGW supporters.

    1. DirkH

      “That is bad for the German and Northern European economies because it’ll probably mean that more money will go south.”

      Merkel and Schaeuble didn’t tell ya but that was inevitable with the pro Euro parties anyway.

      I fully expect it to blow up currency reform style.

  4. Graeme No.3

    In the recent australian elections the Green vote dropped to around 8%.
    That seems to be their sustainable level.

    They’ve captured the gullible vote.

  5. G. Watkins

    Shame about AfD. They seemed to be the breath of fresh air German politics needed.
    Hopefully, the German High Court will protect savings and investments. Surely, the average German will not allow their hard earned “Deutchmarks” to be poured into the black hole of Greece, Portugal etc.
    Good news re. Greens but I’m unfamiliar with Linke – a summary from Dirk perhaps.

    1. DirkH

      After the fall of the DDR, their communist party SED renamed itself to PDS; later the PDS united with some smaller communist groups in the West to form Die Linke. They don’t openly call themselves communists; even though their half-Persian figurehead Sarah Wagenknecht used to candidly admit to be a Stalinist in the past. They are slick talkers and use the ages old trick of promising loot from the rich.

    2. DirkH

      “Hopefully, the German High Court will protect savings and investments.”

      The Lisbon treaty subjugates decisions of national high courts under the European high court; and national constitutions under European right; especially the Lisbon treaty. Which was intended to be called the European constitution.

      European law defined in July 2013 that depositors now count as creditors to the Bank. So, in a banking collapse, the old order of wipeout was first stockholders, then bondholders, last depositors; now it is first stockholders, then bondholders AND depositors.

      European banks have become hot potatoes. I got a stack of Euro notes at home; too dangerous to keep in the bank.

      Stocks held in a bank depot also count as credit to the bank. So owning stock and holding it in a bank is becoming dangerous as well; counterparty risk. German law will have to implement this European law.

      No information about this leaks out in our state media. This is all the new bail-in regime first tested in Cyprus and now rolled out all over the EU.

      1. DirkH

        I will have to get me a Canadian bank or something.

  6. Casper

    Sorry guys, but it doesn’t really matter who wins. There can be only one winner – the lobbying!

  7. Manfred

    From any other countries perspective, all German parties must be totally undiscernable from the Greens.

    I think any combination can’t be worse than what we already have.

    Altmaier, Minister of Environment, for instance, did not do anything about the agitation against journalists from his office, which even the far green-left Taz newspaper compared with 3rd Reich practise.

    He, a former EU bureaucrat, told publicly, it was his duty to protect his subordinates in the first place (and not the journalists or the interest of the public).

    We certainly remain what we are, 70% of legislation coming from EU commissioners we did not elect or even know, 15% originating from the PIK whisperers and the remaining 15% from political correctness.

    1. Rob

      I agree. I dont know much about German politics, but when you even have Merkel shutting down all nuclear reactors, it looks as if the choice for voters in Germany, apart from some minor parties, is just a choice between one green party and another. Does the loss of votes for the “The Greens” really mean anything when the mainstream parties are just as green as the Greens?

      1. Casper

        And the most of them want to participate in the Energiewende. Don’t you see that?

  8. L Michael Hohmann

    To stay on ‘Greenery': Old news for you: The AGW fraud has nothing whatever to do with ‘science’. Why is nobody listening to the IPCC itself? To leave no doubt, in an interview published in the Neue Zürcher Zeitung on 14 November 2010, Otto Edenhofer, co-chair of IPCC Working Group III, said “The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War…. one must say clearly that de facto we redistribute the world’s wealth by climate policy…. One has to rid oneself of the illusion that international climate politics have anything to do with environmental concerns.”
    Worth repeating what I wrote elsewhere before:
    “May 5, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    I am getting bored. The globe can be getting warmer or colder, but the idea that the human contribution from burning carbon fuels has anything to do with it is not only IMHO the biggest political and intellectual fraud ever – but so says the IPCC itself: http://cleanenergypundit.blogspot.com/2011/10/west-is-facing-new-severe-recession.html. The ongoing discussion pro and con is becoming akin to the scholastic argument as to how many angels can dance on the head of a needle. Which is, of course, exactly what is intended to achieve worldwide disorientation away from the actual IPCC aims of monetary and energy policies – and bringing a whole, if not all, of science into disrepute.”

  9. AJ Virgo

    ..don’t worry AfD will probably cross the %5 barrier.

  10. Josh

    Great to see a green party get comprehensively smashed. Its a pity that nearly all parties are trying to out-green one another

  11. Loodt Pretorius

    So Pierre 71% of the votes counted and the AFD is going nowhere. You were right

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  13. DirkH

    Turkish faction of the Greens (Claudia “Fathima” Roth , Özdemür) against old c0mmie Trittin against christian Katrin Göring-Eckardt – who has the crazy suggestion of becoming a “liberty- and civil rights” party. Yeah that’ll work with the old commies, Katrin!
    Fun only just beginning. Expect party purge soon.

    http://www.welt.de/politik/wahl/bundestagswahl/article120324514/Das-gruene-Personal-belauert-sich-gegenseitig.html

  14. Roger Wilson

    And the paedophilia scandals in the Green Party ?

  15. Ulrich Elkmann

    See this analysis by Bettina Röhl in the Wirtschaftswoche:
    http://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/bundestagswahl-2013-deutschland-am-roten-abgrund/8837008.html

    It’s entirely possible that we may still get a red/red/green front with Herr Steinbrück as chancellor, communist informer Gregor Gysi as vice chancellor (and foreign minister), and Trittin as financial minister. Such a coalition would be holding 316 seats in the Bundestag against Frau Merkel’s 311.