Climate Bet For Charity

UPDATE: 12 JAN 2020: Payment (in euros!)

 

UPDATE 27 NOV 2020: We have a new bet: https://notrickszone.com/2020/11/27/climate-alarmist-dana-ready-to-bet-again-on-global-warming-im-in/

UPDATE 19 NOV 2020: https://notrickszone.com/2020/11/18/current-decade-globally-warmer-than-previous-decade-due-to-powerful-natural-oceanic-cycles-not-co2/
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Will  the next 2011-2020 decade be warmer than the previous 2001 – 2010 decade?

FOLLOW PROGRESS HERE!

NTZ and cool readers are are pledging money and betting it will be cooler, or the same.

Warm readers, led by Rob Honeycutt, say it will be warmer, and so far have pledged $5200 on it.

We are now trying to get as many pledges for money as we can. The loser of the bet will have to pay the amount pladged to a charity for children in dire need, such as Children Hospice International or Doctors Without Borders.

So far NTZ and cool readers have pledged over $2,000 (10  Jan 2011), betting the next decade will be cooler. If the bet were decided today, then the loser would have to pay this amount to the charity (which has not been chosen yet).

Do you want to join the bet? Pledge an amount!

The bet

If the decade of 2011 – 2020 is cooler or the same on average globally than the decade of 2001 – 2010, then warmist Rob Honeycutt and warmist betters will have to pay to charity the total amount that gets pledged by NTZ and readers betting on a cooler decade.

If the average global temperature for the decade 2011 – 2020 is warmer than the average of 2001 – 2010, then NTZ and coolist readers will have to pay everything they pledged to the charity.

Where, when and how do I bet?

You can bet simply by leaving a reader comment below telling how much you want to put down. I will then put your username and email address and amount on a list. I’ll be posting the updated list from time to time (without your e-mail address of course).  Please make your pledges before October 1, 2011.

Which dataset will decide the bet?

It has been agreed to use a composite of RSS and UAH lower troposphere temperature – close to the earth’s surface. The result will be accepted without quibbling, as it is agreed that it’s the best we’ve got. The average of the two will decide the bet!

How and when do I pay if I lose?

Payment will be made when the bet is settled, i.e. January, 2021, or possibly earlier if it’s clear who the winner will be, but only with mutual agreement. If us coolists lose, then they will have to pay what we pledged directly to the yet-to-be-chosen charity organisation. You will be asked to pay when the bet is settled, i.e. January 2021.

WHICH CHARITY GETS THE MONEY?

As mentioned above, the charity organisation is yet to be chosen, but will (1) be one that both sides agree on, (2) help children in dire need (3) have low overhead and (4) be international.

What happens if the loser doesn’t pay?

If the loser of the bet refuses to pay, then he will be forever regarded as a useless deadbeat loudmouth scumbag with no honour. We have a bucket of hot tar and a sack of feathers ready.

How will we control if someone pays?

I’m keeping a list, and somehow we will get a statement from the charity organisation confirming that payment was indeed made.

What if something happens to me and I can’t pay?

Not your fault. You’ll be simply taken off the list and you will be remembered as a generous and honourable person.

So please pledge a nominal amount!

I hope that more readers here will pledge some money for this bet. Again it would be nice to have the warmists pay the full $5200 they’ve pledged thus far. Right now us coolists have about $2000, and so we need to get more coolist bets. Minimum bet is $10.

Minimum age?

You have to be 18 or older.

So what is it going to be? Cooler, or warmer?

(Last updated 10 Jan 2011)

107 responses to “Climate Bet For Charity”

  1. David Rice

    For you anti-science Free Market Justice Warriors to win the wager, year 2020 will have to be -0.27c for the global average temperature. Heh. Good luck with that.

  2. Jonathan

    If the 2016 El Nino is still warming the planet, that must have been one strong event. Kiwithinker’s graph is going through the roof again.

  3. Darcy

    Maybe we can pre-emptively debunk a couple of potential excuses for why the Coolists lost the bet:

    “It was the 2015-2016 El Nino” – Nope. A warm spike at the start of the decade would reduce the trend, a warm spike at the end of the decade would increase the trend, but a warm (or cool) spike in the middle of the decade has little or no effect either way. 2015 and 2016 were the middle years of the 2011-2020 decade.

    “It was the change to RSS v4” – Nope. Changes to the RSS algorithm increased the trend, and changes to the UAH algorithm decreased the trend. The end result is almost no change in the average of the two.

  4. Darcy

    Also … seems like someone on the Coolist side of this bet (Mr Gosselin?) should maybe set up some mechanism for people who contributed to that side of the bet to confirm their charitable donations in January.

    Have the two teams reached a mutual agreement about which charity will benefit?

    From the post above:

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    How and when do I pay if I lose?

    Payment will be made when the bet is settled, i.e. January, 2021, or possibly earlier if it’s clear who the winner will be, but only with mutual agreement. If us coolists lose, then they will have to pay what we pledged directly to the yet-to-be-chosen charity organisation. You will be asked to pay when the bet is settled, i.e. January 2021.

    WHICH CHARITY GETS THE MONEY?

    As mentioned above, the charity organisation is yet to be chosen, but will (1) be one that both sides agree on, (2) help children in dire need (3) have low overhead and (4) be international.

    What happens if the loser doesn’t pay?

    If the loser of the bet refuses to pay, then he will be forever regarded as a useless deadbeat loudmouth scumbag with no honour. We have a bucket of hot tar and a sack of feathers ready.

    How will we control if someone pays?

    I’m keeping a list, and somehow we will get a statement from the charity organisation confirming that payment was indeed made.

  5. TheFinalNail

    Is it just me or is the Kixi Thinker site server broken. Unable to link for several weeks now. Just as the bet is coming to its climax too!

    Results are now in up to October 2020, month 118 of 120, with the ‘warmists’ currently in a huge lead, +0.416 vs +0.260. At this stage it looks doubtful whether even a meteor strike would change the result!

  6. Implementation

    SMS

  7. Uganda

    indexing

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