Station At Germany’s Highest Summit Measures Midwinter Cooling Of Over -3°C Over Past 30 Years!

The summit of Germany’s tallest mountain, Zugspitze, located in the Bavarian Alps near the Austrian border, is 2,962 meters high and thus well isolated from any temperature data corruption sources, such as urban sprawl.

The weather station at the “Top of Germany” has measured 3°C of cooling for the month of January over the past thirty years. Photo cropped here.

The Zugspitze’s peak find itself at an elevation where global warming theory tells us the warming would really be most noticeable. However the January data over the past 30 years tell us a very different story. Instead of warming, the atmosphere at that location above Europe has been cooling, and doing so quite impressively.

Josef Kowatsch, a self proclaimed “active environmentalist and independent researcher” has crunched the data for January from Germany’s DWD National Weather Service himself and found the following for the Zugspitze station:

 

January mean temperature at the summit of the Zugspitze over the past 30 years has plummeted over 3°C. Chart: Josef Kowatsch.

He comments that our supposedly independent media — the DPA and the AFP — have maintained that “winter has been continuously warming. But this is how the warming looks at the Zugspitze.”

Another interesting aspect about the Zugspitze is the movement of its Höllentalferner glacier. According to Wikipedia here, “the Höllentalferner reached its greatest around 1820 with an area of 47 hectares. Thereafter its area reduced continually until the period between 1950 and 1981 when it grew again, by 3.1 hectares to 30.2 hectares. Since then the glacier has lost (as at 2006) an area of 5.5 hectares and now has an area of 24.7 hectares.”

That means the glacier GREW during the 1950 to 1981 period – fully in line with the global cooling period of the 20th century, which NASA has recently been trying to fudge out. Also it tells us the retreat began well before the start of the industrial revolution, and thus natural factors are more at play.

 

33 responses to “Station At Germany’s Highest Summit Measures Midwinter Cooling Of Over -3°C Over Past 30 Years!”

  1. Richard111

    Interesting. Thanks.

  2. SebastianH

    Hint: what is the average humidity and air pressure on top of the Zugspitze?

    The Höllentalferner glacier doesn’t melt fast because of its location (partly in shadows). It’s well documented that glaciers in the alps are retreating. The soot problem is also well documented. Soot and dirt is also melting Tibetan glaciers.

    1. AndyG55

      Its well documented that glaciers come and go cyclically.

      https://s19.postimg.org/xxtc8onhv/swiss_glaciers.png

      1. tom0mason

        And Höllentalferner glacier follows the trend…

        http://bayerischegletscher.userweb.mwn.de/htf/htf_diff.htm

    2. DirkH

      Well Sebastian; the Zugspitze summit is well below Local Thermal Equilibrium meaning, thermalization of IR photons captured by CO2 dominates over dethermalization. BUT, WHERE is the warming that your favorite computer models predict? Should be getting warm there with ever rising thermalization, shouldn’t it.

      It doesn’t. The computer models are frauds.

      1. SebastianH

        It doesn’t have to get warmer in every place on Earth in a global warming scenario. Just like one cold/warm winter is no sign of trends changing …

        1. AndyG55

          Yawn, you are so brain-washed and wilfully ignorant, seb.

          No CO2 warming signal in the whole 39 years of the satellite data.

          No paper that shows that CO2 causes warming in a convective atmosphere.

          1. SebastianH

            Don’t change the subject!

            About satellite data accuracy:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BnkI5vqr_0

          2. AndyG55

            Wrong again, seb

            greenmanfool is a moronic, rabid, AGW non-scientist. just the sort you would listen to.

            His videos are LAUGHED at by all rational human beings.

            Satellite data is WAY more accurate than surface station data, of which nearly half is pure fabrication.

            You still are missing any proof for the very basis of your religion.

            No CO2 warming signal in the whole 39 years of the satellite data.

            No paper that shows that CO2 causes warming in a convective atmosphere.

            And trying every puerile, pre-pubescent trick to avoid the issue.

            PATHETIC is too soft a word.

          3. SebastianH

            You know what … I told you I gave up a few days ago and I still find myself replying to your bullshit insulting comments. I’ll stop replying to you now. Waste of time …

            You can celebrate this as a victory if you want, I don’t care.

          4. AndyG55

            Your pathetic wailing is meaningless to me.
            I’ve seen 5 year olds chuck a better tanty, and go off in a huff.

            You STILL can’t find any proof for the very basis of your religion.

            No CO2 warming signal in the whole 39 years of the satellite data.

            No paper that shows that CO2 causes warming in a convective atmosphere.

            You cannot even counter these basic FACTS.

            Haven’t even made an attempt to.

            Its almost as though FACTS don’t matter to you. 😉

            What sort of religion are you running !!!!

            And you don’t seem to realise the incredible damage you are doing to your “cause” with your incessant ducking and evading of this issue.

            It really is totally bizarre… the brain-washing has obviously left so little brain and so little SELF-INTEGRITY behind, that you will just keep running, ducking and hiding and distracting to try to avoid this issue.

          5. AndyG55

            Just remember sleb, Other people can see you running and hiding, TOTALLY UNABLE to support your baseless religion.

            You post, I will keep asking you to provide proof.

            Run and hide as much as you like. 🙂

          6. sod

            “You post, I will keep asking you to provide proof.2

            sounds like harassment to me. The simple problem is, that you do not accept any reply. You dismiss all experts and all evidence and make laughable excuses (step change) for what is left then.

            Your position is moronic.

          7. David Johnson

            Gallant Sob galloping to the rescue of beleaguered Seb. Both totally feckless and deluded. He now plays the harassment card so beloved of “progressives” everywhere when faced by something they do not like.

          8. AndyG55

            Sob. seb hasn’t provided a paper that shows CO2 causes warming in a convective atmosphere.

            It is his INCOMPETENCE in being able to back up even the most basic non-fact of your religion that is SO HILARIOUS.

            Perhaps you would like to continue to make a fool of your self by running and hiding from this issue.

          9. wert

            Your pathetic wailing is meaningless to me.

            Could you just shut up instead of telling us what is obvious to everyone?

          10. AndyG55

            So you want to try and put forward “the paper” do you.

            Or are you going to join them in their tantrum as well ?

            Bunch of kindergarten losers. !

    3. richard verney

      We also know that the Glaciers in the Alps have advanced dramatically since the time when Hannibal crossed the Alps with Elephants (218BC).

      We know his route, and we know that it could not be done today with Elephants.

      Glacier advance and retreat is a natural process, and I would suggest that you might like to study the recent Fernandez Fernandez 2017 paper on the Greenland Glaciers for a sense of perspective.

  3. sod

    cherry pick month, location and time period 30 years and you get the result you desire.

    You can check climate data for Germany here:

    http://www.dwd.de/DE/leistungen/zeitreihenundtrends/zeitreihenundtrends.html?nn=495662

    by choosing the state, the month and the right time period you can easily provide “trends” that go downward.

    1. AndyG55

      “right time period you can easily provide “trends” that go downward.

      You are right sob, look at the long downward trend from 1920 – 1973 ish..

      Then a single step up, then continued downward trend

      Apart for that single step, the graph you have linked trends downwards from 1920.

      A GREAT find , sob !!!

      You have just proven that there is absolutely NO CO2 influence in the German temperature data, unless of course, CO2 causes cooling.

      1. sod

        “Then a single step up, then continued downward trend”

        This is plain out nuts.

        If we follow your logic, the graph in the original post also does not show any cooling. flat, step down in the mid nineties or early first decade of this century.

        1. AndyG55

          Your incompetence at basic comprehension is hilarious sob. Either that or you are blind as you are dumb.

          Your grasp of reality of the chart you posted is limited to that of a toenail clipping.

          1. wert

            No, idiot, it is you who FU.

          2. AndyG55

            wert joins in the sob/sob ignorance… who woulda guessed. 😉

          3. AndyG55

            for the wilfully blind and naturally dumb, seb, sob, wert ..

            (dumb. dumber, dumbest.. order unknown.)

            https://s19.postimg.org/c96j94777/brdras_ttt_01_de.jpg

    2. Graeme No.3

      sod,
      did you even look at those temperatures? You are mad.

    3. SebastianH

      In case you want to see monthly trends for Zugspitze, I prepared a spreadsheet from the raw data the DWD provides:
      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x26s1CRTzhVcOJVpJUWIZlw0XR3Mb8Dk0gxLsJlj-tk/edit?usp=sharing

      1. sod

        Thanks for this work. i was pretty sure i could guess the results.

    4. Sheri

      Every scientist who leaves out any data between where the instrumental record began and now is cherry picking. You must start at the beginning (somewhere in the late 1800’s) and use every year for both the average and the trendline. Anything else is flat-out cherry picking.

      You must also report how much data is adjusted, estimated and so forth. Anything less is not honest science. This goes for all sides. This merry-go-round of 30 year base periods, various statistical methods and so forth results in completely useless and unintelligible conclusions. Plus, stop adjusting the data if “it makes no difference”. Then we can stop with the claims of “cherry-picking” and cheating on adjustments. Lay ALL the data out there with every claim made—use a link to it so everyone can check it. State the way the statistical analysis was made and why. Give us the algorithm. It’s all very simple.

      You want honestly and accuracy in science, this is the only way to get it.

  4. edmh

    Viewing the Holocene interglacial at a broader scale is much more fruitful, on a century by century and even on a millennial perspective.

    Our current, warm, congenial Holocene interglacial has been the enabler of mankind’s civilisation for the last 10,000 years, spanning from mankind’s earliest farming to recent technology.

    It seems that, driven by the need to continually support the Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming thesis climate scientists are examining the temperature record at altogether too fine a scale, month by month, year by year.

    However Ice Core records show:
    • the last millennium 1000AD – 2000AD has been the coldest millennium of the entire Holocene interglacial.
    • each of the notable high points in the Holocene temperature record, (Holocene Climate Optimum – Minoan – Roman – Medieval – Modern), have been progressively colder than the previous high point.
    • for its first 7-8000 years the early Holocene, including its high point known as the “climate optimum”, have had virtually flat temperatures, an average drop of only ~0.007 °C per millennium.
    • but the more recent Holocene, since a “tipping point” at ~1000BC, 3000 years ago, has seen a temperature loss at about 20 times that earlier rate at about 0.14 °C per millennium.
    • the Holocene interglacial is already 10 – 11,000 years old and judging from the length of previous interglacials, the Holocene epoch should be drawing to its close: in this century, the next century or this millennium.
    • the slight beneficial warming at the end of the 20th century to the Modern high point has been transmuted into the “Great Man-made Global Warming Scare”.
    • the recent warming since the end of the Little Ice Age, (Black death, French revolution, etc.) has been wholly beneficial
    • eventually this late 20th century minor temperature excursion will come to be seen as just noise in the system in the longer term progress of comparatively rapid cooling over the last 3000+ years.
    • other published Ice Core records exhibit the same pattern of a prolonged relatively stable early Holocene period followed by a subsequent much more rapid decline in the more recent past.

    As global temperatures have already been showing stagnation or cooling over the last eighteen years or more and as the sun spot record is diminishing substantially, the world should now fear the real and detrimental effects of cooling, rather than being hysterical about limited, beneficial or now non-existent further warming.

    A real tipping point towards cooling and the end of the Holocene interglacial occurred about 3000 years ago. Looked at from this perspective it seems that a cooling future was much more likely.

    This point is more fully illustrated here:
    https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/the-holocene-context-for-anthropogenic-global-warming-2/

  5. richard verney

    This ties in with your recent post on the Greenland Glaciers and the 2017 paper by Fernandez Fernandez in which they found that about 80% of the average retreat in Greenland Glaciers as from the mid 19th Century took place by 1946 and only about 20% of the total retreat in the past 70 years, ie., after 1946.

    I consider that there are multiple lines of evidennce that suggest that the temperatures that we see today in the Northern Hemisphere are broadly similar to those seen in the late 1930s/early 1940s. As far as the Northern Hemishpere is concerned it would appear that there has been no or little temperature increase these past 75 years notwithstanding that 95% of all manmade CO2 emissions have taken place during this period.

    The Southern Hemisphere is too sparsely sampled to know the position in the Southern Hemisphere, and since we lack the required data on the Souhern Hemisphere, it follows that we do not know the position globally.

    We can only consider the Northern Hemisphere, but we have to be very cautious due to the numerous adjustments and changes in data sampling.

  6. Mark M

    Regional cooling caused recent New Zealand glacier advances in a period of global warming

    http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14202

    via https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/831891608769531904

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