Today just a few comments on Trump’s spectacular victory.
Don’t let the title above mislead you. The overwhelming majority of the German media were shocked and infuriated by Trump’s against-all-odds victory. Indeed if Germans had cast their votes in the US election, Hillary would have won by a margin of something like 94 – 6. That’s how disgustingly one-sided the press here is.
Yet, there are a few journalists/commentators who had the courage to express the harsh, politically incorrect truth of the US election result.
What follow are some examples of non-conforming reaction to Trump’s spectacular victory.
“hate-filled arrogance”
Roger Köppel of the Swiss Weltwoche here writes:
I can understand that some reject Trump and criticize his positions. But what really annoyed me was the hate-filled arrogance coming from fat-cat elites who with great certainty believe that it is a sort of blasphemy whenever someone stands up and challenges their claim to power.”
He summarizes:
The arrogant political cartel, which Trump was fighting, experienced a staggering defeat.”
“High altitude flight of arrogance and disdain!
Henryk M. Broder (right) commented at national daily Die Welt here, where he described how he started the election evening by attending a ritzy election party in Berlin, wholly occupied by Hillary supporters, pundits and elitists of every type. Outside he couldn’t help notice a huge, white stretch-limousine parked outside waiting to ferry guests to the next stop for celebrating a Clinton victory. Broder titled his commentary:
A high altitude flight by arrogance and disdain.”
He writes that he too was convinced Clinton would win. After all: “So many intelligent people in one single spot just couldn’t possibly be wrong.” When the result became clear, Broder says he couldn’t help feeling “a bit of Schadenfreude“. He summarizes:
What do we learn from this? The political elites, starting with the think tanks and ending with the top of the EU, have no clue about the USA. They know where to find the best margaritas in New York, the best spare ribs in Washington and the best tacos in Los Angeles, yet they do not understand America.”
“Collapsed expectations”
At Germany’s flagship political daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung here, journalist Frank Lübberding writes how expectations by Germany’s elitist media collapsed before their very eyes. To explain Trump’s voter base, charts and figures from ARD moderator Jörg Schönenborn were used to clearly show that Trump’s message resonated “only with white men who had little education“. Schönenborn insisted at the beginning of the evening: “Hillary Clinton’s chances are much greater.”
Lübberding then writes that in the ARD studio in Cologne there was only a pro-Clinton audience – and one single “Never-Trump” republican. That was the overall atmosphere. Only the Clinton perspective was presented.
Lübberding then describes the atmosphere of shock and stun that spread across the pro-Clinton ARD studio as the results came to show that Trump would roll to victory. What happened? To explain, Lübbermann cites data presented in the studio from Virgina:
In Virginia white women with college degrees voted as often for Trump as they did for his opponent. That Trump appealed to white uneducated men, a claim that pollsters often heard during the campaign was impressively refuted on that evening.
The picture in reality was nothing what the German media elitists and think tanks believed it had been.
“Shock therapy” for the elitist class
Finally, chief editor Markus Somm at the Swiss Basler Zeitung writes how the elitists have in fact become “trapped by the ideology of privilege” and that anyone who views things differently, or suffers under the elitits, is “berated or ignored“. In talk shows guests who maintain other views are almost excluded. And when they are invited, they are hugely outnumbered so that a pile-on results.
Somm calls the result of the election “shock therapy” for the elitists, and he issues a dire warning for Europe:
What happened in the USA, where a totally non-tested outsider succeeded in capturing the highest office, this is only the beginning. Many countries in the West will soon experience something similar. A revolutionary mood has taken over. […] It is hardly a coincidence. Switzerland, Great Britain, Netherlands, the USA: these are countries that are among the oldest democracies of the West. The more mature and established the democratic traditions are, the more the people’s resistance comes to surface, and thus the more the elitists tremble.”
Photo: Henryk Broder
They didn’t just misread Trump. They are also trapped in an urban bubble, oblivious to those in the hinterland who have been left behind.
https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/election-in-us-flyover-country/
Crows are not protected species (at least in Canada). I hear orders are pouring in from the finest restaurants around the world.
Crows are pretty smart. I hear a lot of them are flying to Red states.
The oligarchy might try to blame the Trump/brexit people for the coming global destabilization.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3051-why-the-us-presidential-election-has-the-entire-world-confused
Hail Donald! The witch is DEAD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tptxW_ilRWc
(Cruel, yes. But necessary at this point for a variety of reasons.)
So as Hillary has not been forthcoming with a comment explaining why *she* lost the election, I’ll have to recycle her old comment —
“Hillary why did you lose the election?”
Hillary:”What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again.”
“Do you feel that your attitude of “what difference does it make”, surely a redefinition of “the ends justifies the means”, caused the Democratic party election collapse?”
Hillary:”What difference,a-at this point does it m-make? It is our job to figure out what happened to me again, f-figure out what, w-wh-what happened to me again, m-m-m-m-me a-again.”
“Thank-you Hillary. Good-bye.”
🙂
Hi from Oz. Yes, the silent Right has spoken. Yes, other countries will follow. But that is just the beginning.
All these countries, even Switzerland, have to fix their financial systems which have been damaged by the Left. This is the next, and far greater challenge, IMO.
There are many stupid statements about Trump but the one that I’ll comment on is this:
“totally non-tested ”
He was raised in NYC, graduated from Wharton, married (3x), 5 kids, major developer, 70 years old, and so on.
I’ll guess he has been tested (even bested a few times). Pundits and elitists seem to be clueless about the real world.
sorry, but we have had experiences with fascists and many Germans have learned a lesson.
We will fight Trump with all means. But hey, he can get cosy with the rest of the fascists, Putin and Erdogan…
Learned a lesson? You like claiming you have, but you really haven’t. Improving relations with Russia is certainly better than antagonizing her and ending up in yet another war. Concerning Turkey, yet another whopping European success!
Chavez was, and Erdogon is a creep. Both have been awful, and guess who is their friend.
https://8295-presscdn-0-5-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/obama-chavez-kiss-thumbnail-e1427742248901.jpg
http://9502-presscdn-0-95.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/erdogan-obama-450×250.jpg
You are an ignorant dolt.
P.S. – I didn’t deal with Putin, because as a Jew I like him. He’s undone a lot of the harm that’s been done to us, and shown himself to be anything but an anti-Semite.
The reason I added Chavez is because he was a far Left Commie freak who destroyed Venezuela. He’s of the same totalitarian cloth as Erdogan, as are those who approve of him, as did the American Democrats.
If you are anti-Trump, you are a part of the problem.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264805/communists-behind-anti-trump-protests-john-perazzo#.
“but we have had experiences with fascists ”
Then why would you STILL be supporting Clinton. !!
It seems you most certainly have NOT LEARNT ANYTHING.
Yet more proof, as if we needed any more, that EVERYTHING sod “KNOWS” IS WRONG.
“We will fight Trump with all means.”
roflmao.
You have zero means, so I don’t see Trump having any problem with you and your fellow leftist fascist thugs at all.
You have proven over and over again that you are an ineffective non-entity.
sod 12. November 2016 at 10:05 PM | Permalink | Reply
“sorry, but we have had experiences with fascists and many Germans have learned a lesson.
We will fight Trump with all means.”
Oho! A heroic antifascist willing to die for his delusions! You are way sicker than I thought.
And BTW sod. Your beloved leader Obama has never figured out a way to fight ISIS – who allegedly throws gays off rooftops. Mean people claim it’s because the Obama regime is supporting them or at least is perfectly happy to have terrorists fight Assad.
So. Why not try something different. Let’s see how long ISIS lasts now that your beloved leader Obama is gone. Let’s see whether the mighty USA with their satellites and warplanes and hellfire missiles finally finds a way to wipe out a few ragheads in a desert. Shall we? Or maybe just lets Putin finish the job, shall we?
Or are you a homophobe, sod?
Come on Sod. Do you support the right of gays to live?
“We will fight Trump with all means.”
Interesting… so you think you are part of some elite fascist, totalitarian group that can actually do anything about Trump being PRESIDENT OF THE USA…
Please tell us more about these people you refer to as “We”.
Do you dare…
… or are you just mouthing vague, egotistical insanities yet again.
Trump is no fascist, he is though a US nationalist.
He appears not to be in the National Socialist Dictator mold either, as to be that he would have to be a politically left-wing, economically third-way redistributive and demand cherry-picking industries for government control.
Oh yes, and utterly crazy like the son of Alois Schicklgruber.
In modern times most fascists are of the Left-wing. Fascism and left fascism are sociological and philosophical terms used to categorize perceived tendencies in extreme left-wing politics otherwise commonly attributed to the ideology of Fascism.
See more left-wing murdering dictators look-up:-
Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Kim Il-sung, Chun Doo Hwan, Kim Jong-il, Kim Jong-un, Joseph Stalin, Mátyás Rákosi, Josip Broz Tito, Antonín Novotný, Enver Hoxha, Nicolae Ceauşescu, Fidel Castro, etc.
An do not forget the left wing wannabees
Baader-Meinhof Group (renamed Red Army Faction, defunct as of 1998) (Germany)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Red Brigades (Italy)
Revolutionary Struggle (Greece)
Shining Path (Peru)
Weather Underground Organization (United States)
Communist Party of India (Maoist) and Naxalites
Yes the so called socialist side of the political spectrum is certainly the more dangerous.
anti-communism is a defining part of fascism. Your “definition” of the term does not make any sense at all.
Sadly, the thought processes of modern Leftists aren’t able to grasp the simplicity that would stare them in the face, if they even bothered to do any actual research into the subject.
http://ray-dox.blogspot.com/2006/08/this-article-is-published-on-internet.html
NAZI stands for National SOCIALIST Workers Party.
CCCP stands for Union Of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics.
And, if you take a close look at Mussolini, you’ll see he was a SOCIALIST as well.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/musso.html
They were all essentially the same at their core, differing only in the means by which they sought to impose their will on others.
“NAZI stands for National SOCIALIST Workers Party.”
no, it does not. you have the name of the party wrong.
NAZI is a term used for wingnut right extremists. the name of the party was NSDAP.
As we see at the moment, right wing extremists are abusing the poor by pretending to work for them. So the use of the term “socialists” has basically no meaning when used for them.
under the “NAZI regime” we saw some “social policies”, but most of them would not be accepted as such today.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sozialpolitik_im_Nationalsozialismus
Drafting soldiers in preperation of a war for example is not a “social policy” to reduce the number of jobless.
Neither would discrimination against non-germans and women be seen as social policy today.
Nationalsozialist = NATIONAL SOCIALIST = NAZI = Member of NSDAP
So, your objection is a distinction without a difference.
They were SOCIALISTS, meaning that they were LEFT WING.
Their “social policy” always involves central control of economies, and because free people don’t want central control, they need to be controlled as well, and that requires state police. They always fail, so they have to blame others, so they invariably need an army to go to war with those “others” responsible for their failure, and to pilfer their wealth to make up for what they themselves can’t produce. If they are too weak to steal from others, they descend into poverty, like Venezuela.
They are not builders. They are destroyers. ALWAYS.
“Nationalsozialist = NATIONAL SOCIALIST = NAZI = Member of NSDAP”
you have that equation totally wrong.
NSDAP: a party with the term “socialist” in its name. NATIONAL SOCIALIST: a member/supporter of that party.
NAZI: a short for a member/supporter of that party at that time, but has a DIFFERENT meaning now (as the party does not exist any longer!!!)
THE NSDAP was about as “socialist” as the C partys (CDU/CSU) are “christian” today. It is a label, like the term “strawberry” on a joghurt, that contains at best micro portions of the fruit.
We just saw the right supremacists use the NAZI salute in the US, and they support Trump. We did not see this at the Bernie sanders rallies and they do not support that “socialists”.
“We just saw the right supremacists use the NAZI salute in the US, and they support Trump.”
Ahem, genius, you surely did not know about the Roman salute and the Bellamy salute. You surely thought Hitler invented it.
But that’s because you know very little indeed.
I’ve provided links in my other posts for whoever wants facts and more informed opinions. They have obviously done you no good.
One more link, for everyone actually interested in the facts.
https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
“Ahem, genius, you surely did not know about the Roman salute and the Bellamy salute. You surely thought Hitler invented it.”
what are you trying to tell me? This people were doing the NAZI salute and nothing else. Why would you deny it?
I am really shocked that so many people were unable to see this. While they think trump will work for them, he is already trying to sell Trump steaks to the white house and the US Army.
Just wait for the special tax break for people in the building business of casinos, Hotels and golf clubs…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA
🙂
You really are a BAD LOSER, sop….
But we have known that for a long time.
You never learn, so you will always LOSE !!!
“You really are a BAD LOSER, sop…. ”
No. You are the bad loser. Your “winner” trump declared before the election, that he would not accept the result. He made up stuff (voter fraud) that does not exist at all, to excuse his possible loss even before the election.
Now he won the electoral college by a small margin in a couple of states but lost the popular vote. And that only after significant action by a rogue FBI boss. He has seriously pissed of the majority of Americans and they will hit back hard.
sod, Hillary won New York and California by about 4 million votes so across the rest of the 50 states, Trump won by 3.6 million. The electoral college system was set up to prevent the most populous states dominating the election results over the rest of the country.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
Get over it. Accept it. Grow up.
Plus look at the House of Representative results. The map of the USA looks like a red faced teenager with blue acne.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/house
Get over it. Accept it. Grow up.
Finally look at the Senate results – more Republicans were elected than Democrats
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/senate
Get over it. Accept it. Grow up.
Your overall “popular vote” metric is cherry picking . But I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by this.
It’s also a useful time to remember that in the recently-completed World Series, the Cubs won the series four games to three, but the Indians actually scored more runs. Funny, I haven’t seen Indians fans rioting in Cleveland to demand that the title be given to the Indians, by trying to change the rules after-the-fact so that the Indians won the WS by 28-26 (I think that’s what it was).
The objective is win individual games, not score the most overall runs in the Series.
And that leads to something else as to why it’s disingenuous (at best) to try to make the claims that are being made. Everything is run – and occurs – based on the state-by-state electoral college system. The way the campaigning is done is based on this (e.g., nobody bothered to campaign in places like California). Further, voting patterns are based on the underlying rules; it’s a fact of electoral life over here that Libertarian Party election numbers are inflated by what are otherwise Republican voters in hopelessly-blue states (and regions) – who, if the rules going in were national-popular, wouldn’t vote that way. It’s the same with turnout – e.g., if you live in a hopelessly, top-to-bottom blue enclave (again, much of California is like this), the incentive to turn out is virtually nil.
Funny thing from the House map. While the idea of secession from the Union has always been somewhat comic-opera (at least since the 1860s), there are more serious intra-state secession movements and have been for some time; these usually are based on the more rural regions of a number of states being annoyed about being neglected by state governments that are de facto run of, by, and for the urban population center(s). They never get anywhere largely because the state legislature would have to approve such a move – and they aren’t going to let otherwise-captive taxpayers walk.
However, if the screaming ninnies actually *do* get a secession movement going somewhere, then things could get, um, interesting on that basis. Look at the map for Oregon – where there are Portland ninnies trying to get a secession bill going in the state legislature. That’s unlikely to get beyond catharsis – but if it were to happen, then you’d have the rest of the state demanding that they be allowed to secede from Oregon and remain in the Union. That federalizes at least that part of the issue.
Interested non-US readers might want to go look at how West Virginia came to be. (That it occurred in 1864 should make it easy to figure out.)
@The Indomitable Snowman, Ph.D.
LOL – Very clever! =)
“No. You are the bad loser.”
ROFLMAO.. SO PATHETICALLY CHILDISH.
Trump WON both electoral and popular vote
https://70news.wordpress.com/2016/11/12/final-election-2016-numbers-trump-won-both-popular-62-9-m-62-7-m-and-electoral-college-vote-306-232-hey-change-org-scrap-your-loony-petition-now/
GET OVER IT.
If Trump thought there were issues, he would have challenged LEGALLY, not this Democratic THUGGERY that we are used to seeing.
I have no doubt at all that you condone every bit of that THUGGERY and VIOLENCE.
You really are a bad LOSER, sop.
Final count…
Electoral votes: Trump 306, Clinton 232;
Senate: Republicans 51, Democrats 46;
House of Reps: Republican 239, Democrats 193.
Only one winner there, little sop. 🙂
“Now he won the electoral college by a small margin”
roflmao..
sop thinks that Trump 306, Clinton 232 is a small margin…. that’s 57% to 43%
I wonder what a landslide would look like !! 😉
sod scribbled “[Trump] made up stuff (voter fraud) that does not exist at all,…”
I already posted on that, but as usual you don’t learn from or correct your mistakes.
https://notrickszone.com/2016/11/09/chart-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1145871
sod 13. November 2016 at 10:01 AM | Permalink | Reply
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“You really are a BAD LOSER, sop…. ”
No. You are the bad loser. Your “winner” trump declared before the election, that he would not accept the result.
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But sod. You know perfectly well that your leftist journalists lie where they can. We both know that they mutilated his words. “Will you accept the result`?” “We will see what happens.”
Now you come to us with the lie from your journalists even though you know us and you know that we track these lies in German and ENglish as they unfold across the Atlantic in realtime because we find stupid liars fascinating to watch because we love it when the enemy makes a mistake?
Why don’t you try and find ILLITERATE persons to lie to?
Sod, Your ignorance is breath taking.
What is it like, sod, to have a head filled with crap?
http://nypost.com/2016/03/10/those-trump-steaks-werent-actually-trumps-steaks/
The left is, was and will be evil, as long as they exist, may that not be much longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27dshxbbPlg
“What is it like, sod, to have a head filled with crap?”
What are you trying to tell me with that link? Trump is a liar! He showed “Trump steaks” that were not “trump steaks”.
Why are you celebrating a lie? Why are you supporting a liar?
I notice you AVOID answering the question above
“We will fight Trump with all means.”
Who is “We”?
You and your nanny ?
You poor little irrelevant sop.
The people. a majority is against Trump.
Why are you on the side of the President elect that is supported by the KKK?
Why are you on same side as ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood and Wall Street? Your argument is silly.
Ah!….. the perpetually WRONG sop.
Electoral votes: Trump 306, Clinton 232; Senate: Republicans 51, Democrats 46;
House of Reps: Republican 239, Democrats 193.
The USA election PROVES that the people are behind Trump.
GET OVER IT, you pathetic loser.
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Clinton has closer ties to KKK than Trump ever will have.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/25/hillary-clinton-friend-mentor-robert-byrd-kkk/
Anyway, I thought you lived in Germany..
That means that you and your nanny are totally irrelevant to the USA PRESIDENT ELECT: DONALD TRUMP.
You have nothing to do with “the people” of the USA, and wouldn’t for one second have the most basic clue what they think.
Merkel, soon to be assigned to the scrap heap 🙂
“Why are you on same side as ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood and Wall Street? Your argument is silly.”
I am not. ISIS and extremist muslim groups are celebrating Trumps victory. The KKK is also celebrating, and that is a fact.
Wall street will have more power with Trump, not less. he will offer them extreme tax cuts. (that is better than anything they could have sneaked in under Clinton)
sod 15. November 2016 at 11:51 AM | Permalink
“ISIS and extremist muslim groups are celebrating Trumps victory. ”
That’s very strange given that The Donald wants agreement with Putin who’s just killing ISIS.
Don’t you even have a link to some leftist sophistry to back up your idiotic claim? Salon or VOX or some other professional idiots?
Hillary killed our Ambassador to Lybia, but that’s just gotta take a back seat to “Trump Steaks”-gate.
Got any other earth shattering revelations for us, sod?
No?
Good. Now go get a life.
sod 13. November 2016 at 12:00 PM | Permalink | Reply
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“What is it like, sod, to have a head filled with crap?”
What are you trying to tell me with that link? Trump is a liar! He showed “Trump steaks” that were not “trump steaks”.
”
Now WHAT is your REAL problem, Leftist?
a) That Trump is a fascist who just destroyed the West (as Jakob Augstein so eloquently determines.) (and will destroy the Earth in a nuclear inferno, as others have predicted)
b) That he buys a pound of meat and brands it a “Trump Steak”?
Come on boy. Even you should be able to figure out SOME priorities.
CONVOLUTED AND CONFUSED
“I am really shocked that so many people were unable to see this. While they think trump will work for them, he is already trying to sell Trump steaks to the white house and the US Army.” – sod 12. November 2016 at 10:14 PM
So I post a link that shows he has nothing to sell, and now Trumps is a “liar,” when all he could have meant is “these things are so good I wish they had my name on them.” or some such.
Besides, a “Trump steak” is like an “Air Jordan” sneaker (though hopefully better tasting). sod has no clue that this happens all the time, where someone pays you to put your name on their product to boost it’s sales. He/she/it/whatever (those are the only pronouns I intend to learn) has no clue what “marketing” is.
Must be really desperate to nitpick about such trivial things, while remaining willfully blind to real evil.
http://tundratabloids.com/2016/11/uk-sharia-court-hell-women-treated-as-expected/
“That he buys a pound of meat and brands it a “Trump Steak”?”
that is not what happened. Trump was attacked in the primary. He was told that his steak business was a failure (it was, it was cancelled and feed back was pretty negative).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/hey-trump-wheres-the-beef-trump-steaks-are-so-rare-we-cant-even-find-one/2016/03/22/175b682a-ebc3-11e5-bc08-3e03a5b41910_story.html
So Trump took some random steaks and made the claim, that they were “Trump steaks”.
For some utterly absurd reason, many people find this sort of lying acceptable.
“If you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr.” – HUSSEIN O
“Our ambassador to Libya was killed because of a riot that got out of control, that was started because of an offensive internet video.” – Clinton
“For some utterly absurd reason, many people find this sort of lying acceptable.” – sod
Yes, and yet you keep believing their lies, and the more absurd they are, the better you like them.
sod 15. November 2016 at 12:07 PM | Permalink
“that is not what happened. Trump was attacked in the primary. He was told that his steak business was a failure (it was, it was cancelled and feed back was pretty negative). ”
Sod, sod. What’s your real beef? That Trump is a gay-killing KKK racist? That ISIS wants him as their next calif? Or that Trump bought some meat and sold it on?
Please. Concentrate for a moment. Maybe that way you could appear saner and maybe at least confuse a person of little experience.
“He showed “Trump steaks” that were not “trump steaks”.” – sod the irrelevant
Steaks, strawberries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlV3oQ3pLA0
What difference at this point does it make?
Funny, it took the Trumps just another day to show that i was right:
Ivanka is using the 60 minutes segment with her father president elect to advertise her jewelry:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/15/with-ivankas-jewelry-ad-trump-companies-begin-to-seek-to-profit-off-the-election/
This is disgusting. Where are the people who were angry about the clinton foundation?
This is just childish nonsense. Sod, this hardly makes you look serious about debating issues. We won’t look at what current President has done (100s of millions for Holidays, campaigning for Clinton on taxpayers’s dime), or especially the Clintons. Either you start discussing at a mature level and cite non-juvenile sources, or you’re out. I like discussion, but I don’t give equal time to those who bring the Level down and cling to ideology and silly examples.
Ivanka is an amateur compared to Hillary’s using the State Department to enrich herself through the Clinton Foundation by giving favors for donations. And many of those donations came from terrorist sponsors.
http://yournewswire.com/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-foundation-donors-isis/
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/264729/clinton-foundation-took-1-mil-terror-sponsor-no-daniel-greenfield
And two-faced hypocrite sod is worried about a little bracelet.
Ban him!!!
thanks to stan , i missed the original replies to this one.
“This is just childish nonsense. Sod, this hardly makes you look serious about debating issues. We won’t look at what current President has done (100s of millions for Holidays, campaigning for Clinton on taxpayers’s dime), or especially the Clintons.”
I made a very specific prediction above: Trump would use his presidency to directly benefit his business. And actually i was not even serious, as you can see when you reread what i wrote:
“While they think trump will work for them, he is already trying to sell Trump steaks to the white house and the US Army. ”
For a start, i know that the “Trump steak” business failed a long time ago and i actually expected a much more nuanced and indirect approach by the Trumps.
So ikn my post above, i simply point out that Ivanka is doing exactly what i predicted would happen (and i also know that this jewelry business is of limited scale, as would be selling “Trump steaks” to the white house, by the way).
sod 21. November 2016 at 8:37 AM | Permalink | Reply
“I made a very specific prediction above: Trump would use his presidency to directly benefit his business.”
Ahem… the horrors!
” And actually i was not even serious, as you can see when you reread what i wrote:
“While they think trump will work for them, he is already trying to sell Trump steaks to the white house and the US Army. ””
Well, and kill gays and become ISIS’ next caliph.
“So ikn my post above, i simply point out that Ivanka is doing exactly what i predicted would happen (and i also know that this jewelry business is of limited scale, as would be selling “Trump steaks” to the white house, by the way).”
It seems to me that your concern about the poor persecuted USA gays pales in comparison to your obsession with steaks. Why is that, sod? Are you a homophobe?
“Ahem… the horrors! ”
well, looks like one phone call from the president elect got his building process moving in Argentina.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/24/trump-won-and-for-his-argentine-partners-thats-good-for-business/
Again, this is much more obvious abuse of his position, than i ever thought was possible.
At least she is are selling something people want, rather than just ripping it from the taxpayer.
And if you don’t want one of those Macy’s dresses…
..then don’t buy it.. no matter how much it tempts you.
This map is for sop !
See all that red colour.. That is for TRUMP
GET OVER IT !!
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png
Wow. That reminds me of this map:
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/56312-thumb/verizon-4g-lte-coverage.png
Except that Trump has better coverage than Verizon. 🙂
“See all that red colour.. That is for TRUMP
GET OVER IT !!”
Clinton is now ahead by over a million vote, a historic record.
https://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clintons-popular-vote-victory-is-unprecedented-and-still-growing/
I wonder what you folks would be saying, if this was the other way round. Oh, actually i do not wonder. I know.
The denial of reality is your strong suit, isn’t it sop. !!
Trump is President-elect. Elected by the people of the USA… under the electoral system of the USA.
Heck, even the NY Times admits it !!
END OF STORY !
And guess what… all those so-called votes are almost certainly from ILLEGAL voters.
To stop this FRAUD, Trump will bring in some sort of voter ID at elections.. and that will be the end of the Democrats for a long, long time.
sod, Hillary won New York and California by about 4 million votes so across the rest of the 50 states, Trump won by 3.6 million. The electoral college system was set up to prevent the most populous states dominating the election results over the rest of the country.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
Get over it. Accept it. Grow up.
Plus look at the House of Representative results. The map of the USA looks like a red faced teenager with blue acne.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/house
Get over it. Accept it. Grow up.
Finally look at the Senate results – more Republicans were elected than Democrats
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/senate
Get over it. Accept it. Grow up.
Your overall “popular vote” metric is cherry picking . But I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by this.
– See more at: https://notrickszone.com/2016/11/12/critics-call-german-elitist-reaction-to-trump-victory-a-high-altitude-flight-by-arrogance-and-disdain/comment-page-1/#comment-1147705
Hey sod, it’s now under 800,000. Why didn’t you update us on that??
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
It’s OK, for Chelsea to pull money from her parent’s “charity” foundation, though, isn’t it sod.
Chelsea Clinton used foundation to help pay for wedding
I guess everyone knows The Clinton Foundation is just a total scam so it’s not like Chelsea was doing any (more) damage.
Tim Blair in Australia starts the search for all this social misfits leaving the USA after the TRUMP election..
ENJOY ! 🙂
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/help-them-find-a-home/news-story/61fce29d7ce9ed95fee75c70963d2eaa
“Indeed if Germans had cast their votes in the US election, Hillary would have won by a margin of something like 94 – 6.”
That is likely MSM/pollster desinformation again. An online poll by a Würzburg newspaper achieved Trump 53 to 47 Hillary.
The shock to the political caste in Germany is because they ACTUALLY think we ARE monsters. That is their mental model of us.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/election-unleashed-cognitive-dissonance-cluster-bomb
They also DO think we WANT the planet to perish in a modest warming because their mental model tells them that a modest warming IS a catastrophy and that anyone who WANTS to allow that to happen MUST be a monster.
If sod or David A are reading, full disclosure: I do not think any warming will happen from here and even if we did get a 2 deg C warming that would just enable us to grow pomegranates in Germany like we did in the MWP. I would really not be worried the slightest even if sea level rose a meter – We can handle that by a centuries old technology called piling up dirt. Or in short, dykes.
I liked :
‘So how do you explain-away Trump’s election if you think you are smart and you think you are well-informed and you think Trump is OBVIOUSLY a monster?’
That’s where cognitive dissonance comes in.
De Welt seems to think Americans living in Germany helped a lot.
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article159309997/Machen-die-Deutsch-Amerikaner-Trump-zum-Praesidenten.html
“De Welt seems to think Americans living in Germany helped a lot.”
you have totally misunderstood the article. It is about Americans with a German heritage.
Google translate says this
“Each seventh American has at least some German roots – and the majority of them support Donald Trump.”
Doesn’t surprise me at all.
Once removed from the rabid German newspaper leftism, most Germans are capable of being quite sensible.
sop, on the other hand, is totally brain-washed by the greenie/far-left German media propaganda.
To become sensible he needs a complete brain-drain and re-boot… Then back to kindy to start again.
“you have totally misunderstood the article. It is about Americans with a German heritage.” – sod
Why, so I have. Thanks for pointing that out.
Doesn’t really make a difference though, does it? Trump won, and the tramp lost.
But what I don’t misunderstand is that now America stands a chance of recovering and surviving, and with her perhaps the rest of the world.
I tried posting on this once before, but it also didn’t appear then.
Die Welt seems to think that Americans Living in Germany were a factor in the trump win. So, since the spam filter doesn’t seem to like Die Welt, here’s the headline so you can look it up if so motivated.
“Machen die Deutsch-Amerikaner Trump zum Präsidenten?”
Oh, and THINKS, GUYS!!!
German media including the state media we have to finance with 8bn EUR a year was 100% anti Trump, and HEAVILY reported on him. And constantly brought every pro Hillary meme they could copy from US press, like, oh, pneumonia, she’s so badass.
It’s beyond parody now. Very much like in the DDR. I was able to watch DDR television back in the day and had many a laugh at the clumsy propaganda. It’s exactly the same all over Germany now.
And! They had no beef in the fight! It was all virtue signalling by our politically correct journalists: They killed all their remaining credibility without any need!
“They killed all their remaining credibility without any need!” – DirkH
Serves them right for putting all their rotten eggs in one deplorable basket, eh?
Oh, yes, and it the support for Clinton was that high in Germany, it would explain why you are still stuck with Merkel.
Yes, there is a movement in many nations buoyed by resentment against the PC elites, but don’t expect those elites to change the way they do things as a result. Trump is going to find it very tough to make headway, just as the brexiteers, of whom I am one, are going to find it very difficult to make it stick against the power of the European Union.
And despite all his bluster, I am not convinced Trump is really principled enough to resist making an accommodation with the incumbent powers to make the difference that we wish to see. Expect a serious watering-down of his climate scepticism.
Willis Eschenbach over at WUWT, ever alert as he is, made a short post pointing out that, although the US election was 50/50 in the nation as a whole, in Washington DC H. Clinton took 93 percent of the vote. Repeat – 93 percent. Trump got 4 percent. That is just astounding. What a gulf has opened up between the ruling class and the people! And it is not unreasonable to point out that a liberal-green majority of similar magnitude would be found across the whole scientific establishment and, most importantly perhaps, the educational establishment, with all the power of indoctrination that it wields.
This isn’t over.
“This isn’t over.” – mothcatcher
Ya gotta start somewhere.
As Winston Churchill said, I think it was after winning the Battle of Britain…
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” – Winston Churchill
El Alamein
Thanks.
Battle of Britain (during) was the equally memorable
‘Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.’
@Nigel S
Thanks.
That one I’d have probably attributed correctly, as I’ve read more about it than Alamein. Amazing how these guys often popped up when we needed them most. Seems like were all running on vapors now, though.
Comin’ in on a wing and a prayer
Comin’ in on a wing and a prayer
With our one motor gone
We can still carry on
Comin’ in on a wing and a prayer
“El Alamein”
&
‘Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.’
Any more hyperbole? Like this:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Then came Donald Trump…
Are you trying to imitate Trump’s exaggerations?
“Any more hyperbole? Like this:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Then came Donald Trump…
Are you trying to imitate Trump’s exaggerations?”
Sod, isn’t it YOUR ilk who is mastering hyperbole? Like SPIEGELs Jakob Augstein who just declared that Trump singlehandedly destroyed the West and turned the American Empire fascistic?
@DirkH 14. November 2016 at 9:08 PM
Even for sod, this seems to be a new level of unhinged.
The population of Wash. D. C. is mostly black, middle aged, poor by many standards, and not of “the ruling class.” The ruling class mostly lives and votes elsewhere. The elected ones will vote in their home states, Alabama, Alaska, …, Wyoming.
http://censusreporter.org/profiles/16000US1150000-washington-dc/
I think that DC has comfortably the highest per income per capita of anywhere in the US. Wait, I’ll check ..
Yes, only adjacent districts of Maryland are close.California’s high, but not that high.
Perhaps more relevant, is that just about everyone in DC works for the government or lives off the government
Indeed – hence the need to drain the swamp.
Maybe this will inspire Germans to get rid of Merkel?
https://youtu.be/6LDLxYpnd6U
Hope you succeed!
The Democrats arguably threw the election to protect themselves from a Clinton Presidency which would have destroyed them and America.
Clinton blames Comey’s late intervention, which is correct – he clearly followed orders to knock Clinton’s momentum into touch. The unspoken part of this is voter fraud, but biased in favour of Trump so he just squeezed in.
OK, this is conspiracy la-la land, but the next move, to assassinate Trump, just like Kennedy, will be to restore Globalist control via Pence, and with it mad Merkel’s mass immigration and 30 years of European civil war.
Altruism is NOT a virtue that the Left possess. In fact, I would be surprised if they had any real virtues at all. And with their loss, they are in far greater disarray than they’d have been in if she had won.
Comey is pretty much owned by the Clintons.
http://ijr.com/2016/09/703663-fbi-director-let-hillary-off-the-hook-now-we-know-why-he-wouldnt-talk-about-the-clinton-foundation/
He did the minimum that he was legally required to do, and no more, even though a lot more could and should have been done.
Re – Calls to assassinate Trump come from Democrat supporters,who have not a little in common with the invaders they champion.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41df811ee78721bf4d5f760c7d34050248db5cecbf260a330420938898c68021.jpg
Same here in Holland / Kingdom of the Netherlands / aka the 17th Bundesland .
Dozens and dozens of channels have been bashing Trump for months and have been looking away from the crimes of the Clinton clan and their Court.
Not a shred of objectivity except for a few populair rightwing internet sites, magazines.
Clinton was always ahead in the fake polls that they cited but they never once asked themselves here, like in the US ,why does Clinton have a 1.000 man at a rally once or twice a week and Trump has 10/20 thousand even 3 times a day ?
The local elites that populate the Media, the Parliament were completely uninformed about what was happening and stunned , and were even crying.
I had great confidence in it , using LA Times poll, (Trump almost constantly ahead), the Allan Lichtman method, and by following others like Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii, or Bill Still.
“Clinton was always ahead in the fake polls that they cited but they never once asked themselves here, like in the US ,why does Clinton have a 1.000 man at a rally once or twice a week and Trump has 10/20 thousand even 3 times a day ?”
Very clever question. That is, why Trump won the popular vote by twice the Clinton count, didn t he?
Our elections have NEVER been decided by the “popular vote” sod. If you don’t like it, go suck an egg.
“Our elections have NEVER been decided by the “popular vote” sod. If you don’t like it, go suck an egg.”
That does not matter. if drawing huge crowds was explaining the election results, then Trump should have been miles ahead. The explanation is total garbage.
You are right, sod, that about half the voting population – about 19% of US Americans – wanted to live under the rulership of the criminal and treasonous Clinton, an enabler and professional defender of multiple rapists.
The interesting question is then:
Who confused these poor idiots to this degree?
And:
Will that manipulator be able to pull this off again?
We both know the answer, sod. The lying MSM are in their death throes. The journalists get their comeuppance.
Electoral votes: Trump 306, Clinton 232;
Senate: Republicans 51, Democrats 46;
House of Reps: Republican 239, Democrats 193.
ACROSS THE BOARD TRUMP
Get your sopping nappy changed…
and GET OVER IT.
“if drawing huge crowds was explaining the election results, then Trump should have been miles ahead.”- sod
Trump had enough votes to swamp out the massive vote-fraud that Democrats are known for. Democrats have been at this for a LONG time – probably as long as there have been Democrats
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/04/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-in-chicago
As AndyG55 writes…
“Get your sopping nappy changed…
and GET OVER IT.”
@Jan_Vermeer
You write that your media are also “…looking away from the crimes of the Clinton clan and their Court.”
Sure. If they exposed the Clintons, your peasants might see similarities in their “leaders,” and that might upset the medieval elite social order.
And they call us primitive?!
there are no serious crimes. Where is Trump chanting “lock her up”?
it was just one of the many false promises.
Trump won the election.
Clinton and her band of misfits lost
Get over it, or are you in denial about the result?
“there are no serious crimes.” – SOD
The Clintion’s whole life has been a crime spree, all of it serious.
https://youtu.be/kypl1MYuKDY
Is anything that you “know” that isn’t 100% wrong?
There are serious crimes.
Trump will not do anything aside from removing the obstructions to justice that are currently in place. Hillary’s prosecution will then take place in the natural course of a reopened investigation, without any explicit direction from Trump. He does not have to impose any special rulings unlike Obama.
The world has seen the ‘Brexiteers’ celebrating, now the ‘Trumpeteers’ are celebrating, and joining them soon after January 20, 2017 will be the ‘Climateers’ celebrating.
And I say, God bless Donald Trump.
Let me explain, why i think that the Trump presidency will fail. I will use an example from german politics to illustrate my point.
The 2009 elections brought a win for the conservative party and a coalition with the economic liberalism FDP party under Guido Westerwelle.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Westerwelle#Wahlerfolg_2009_und_Folgen
They had run on big promises and had not wasted too much time on figuring out, how to govern well. Basically there plan was to get into government, and they thought the rest would be a cakewalk. it was not.
So the FDP failed misserably afterwards and was basically eliminated from most state parliaments afterwards, a decline that is only starting to end now.
Most illustrating is, what happened at the foreign ministry, which Westerwelle took over. People there simply did not accept him and were really happy, after Steinmeier from the SPD took over again in 2013 (return to reason).
So where is the similarity to Trump? Trump is running on an extremist agenda. He has made bold claims and basically has no plans. Now he is filling important positions with really incompetent people.
So if you look at the EPA for example, the resistance will be very strong. Trump is coming in with extreme positions, which also are not supported by facts. The scientists at EPA will fight back against such nonsense.
In short: extreme positions, which are also stupid and introduced by incompetent people will have a low chance of success in even the intermediate time frame.
Well sop, you would certainly know about failure.
Your whole life is based on failing and being wrong.
sod,
You said —
“So if you look at the EPA for example, the resistance will be very strong. Trump is coming in with extreme positions, which also are not supported by facts. The scientists at EPA will fight back against such nonsense. ”
You fail to understand the US system of government. When a new administration comes in they can at a whim change out all the non-permanent (contract)staff and reallocate the permanent civil service employees. They can also set, reset, and alter any agency budget and therefore staffing levels as per their policy.
The President also gets to appoint a huge number of Government Agency heads of staff, Military appointees, and just about anyone in the diplomatic position.
Also note Under the Hatch Act of 1939, civil servants are not allowed to engage in political activities while performing their duties — to do so is illegal! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939
If, as your theories implies, EPA staffers would attempt to oppose the Presidents, then I foresee a lot of ‘gardening leave’ happening prior to many early retirements.
In short again:
if the leader of the free world is constantly rated at 3 or 4 Pinocchios, he will not succeed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/11/15/trumps-claim-that-two-million-or-three-million-criminal-aliens-are-here-illegally/
Yeah, especially when he’s rated by a biased enemy who’s been part of the estabishment for decades. /sarc
“Yeah, especially when he’s rated by a biased enemy who’s been part of the estabishment for decades. /sarc”
so do you have a serious source supporting his bogus number?
Trump will run a government on a contra -factual basis. This will not work.
Who knows more about criminal illegal aliens, ICE or the Washington Pest?
“…ICE estimates that there are more than 1.2 million criminal aliens at large in the U.S.”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/16/crime-wave-elusive-data-shows-frightening-toll-illegal-immigrant-criminals.html
That was a year ago, and I think it’s a pretty good bet there are more now.
If it isn’t wrong, sod isn’t interested in it.
“That was a year ago, and I think it’s a pretty good bet there are more now.”
no. Obama has been deporting a lot of people.
1.2 million is lower than 2 million. And Trump claimed 2-3 million.
Why do you not simply admit that he was wrong?
There are no numbers supporting his claim or yours, not even the ones you used!
https://70news.wordpress.com/2016/11/12/final-election-2016-numbers-trump-won-both-popular-62-9-m-62-7-m-and-electoral-college-vote-306-232-hey-change-org-scrap-your-loony-petition-now/
THREE MILLION illegal votes.. which would have gone 97% to Clinton..
and still she is the LOSER. !!
“Obama has been deporting a lot of people.” – SOD
You are either phenomenally STUPID or a bald faced LIAR. (possibly both).
Obama ordered the release of some of the worst offenders to our streets.
http://cis.org/ICE-Document-Details-36000-Criminal-Aliens-Release-in-2013
And what happens when you release them? At least 30% break the law again. (and this is from a paper that endorsed Hillary in 2016, and Obama in 2008)
https://www.numbersusa.com/news/boston-globe-investigation-30-released-criminal-aliens-commit-new-crimes
“1.2 million is lower than 2 million. And Trump claimed 2-3 million.” – sod
There are ALWAYS more than you know about. It’s an estimate, sod, and probably a very good one. Besides, if they are here illegally, then that’s one law they’ve broken already, so in fact it’s a lot more.
sop is rated at 20+ Pinocchios.
Or is it just that everything he says is just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG
sod doesn’t lie – he doesn’t have the intelligence to grasp that the green/red left have manipulated him to become a puppet for mouthing their inanities.
Hillary Clinton, OTH, needs a crutch to keep her nose off the deck with Barack Obama not far behind
Sod.
Trump won!
Clinton is the loser!
Who’s the denier now?
what are you talking about ? i am not denying that trump won the electoral college.
CLEAN SWEEP 🙂
All levels of the government..
So funny watching the far-left scum bubbling to the surface.. and watching sop get even more confused and desperate with his lies and carrying on.
You appear to be in denial over the result like some crybaby who has lost their toys.
Clinton lost get over it. You know nothing of Trump’s policies, you are just rumor-mongering for effect. Sorry but the effect this far has show that you understand nothing about American politics and even less about the social sentiment of the many disparate US citizens that feel left out of the process. Clinton offered these people nothing, so they voted for the man who directly voiced some understanding of their plight.
Sod, grow up — Clinton is a LOSER!
In Germany 4% would have voted Trump.
http://web.de/magazine/politik/wahlen/us-wahl/4-prozent-deutschen-wuerden-donald-trump-us-praesident-waehlen-31994960
No, I’m sure it’s 3% so that 97% wouldn’t have. Cook’s constant abounds in climate science circles.
D. Appell.
Trump won!
Clinton is the loser!
Who’s the denier now?
Trumps transition team has no ethics code at all. Obama had the strongest ever.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/16/trump-gets-to-decide-the-ethics-rules-for-his-own-transition/
WaPo as your reference..
ROFLMAO !!
Poor sop… sinking into the mire of far-left gullibility !!
You puppet strings are making you look absolutely hilarious. 🙂
Merkel, next to go. 🙂
For your sake I hope so
http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/dumb-and-dumber-hillary-clinton-angela-merkel-messing-up-the-world-and-white-culture-on-both-sides-of-the-atlantic.jpg
Obama? Ethics?
hahahahahahahahahah
http://ipatriot.com/obamas-lies-scandals-corruption-partial-list/
And I thought sod had no sense of humor.
Oh, and about Hillary’s “ethics” – she hasn’t any, either.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1c/ab/e0/1cabe047d1f4bddbbdb83e6a220ec2cb.jpg
Sod said “Trumps transition team has no ethics code at all. Obama had the strongest ever. ”
The primary representative here of the gi’me, gi’me, gi’me generation has spoken!
Sod,
Your comments here on this thread prove that you understand very little about Americans and American system of government.
Why then should anyone take seriously your protestation about “Trumps transition team has no ethics code at all. Obama had the strongest ever. ” when you have so little credibility on the subject?
Serious, indeed. And this is just a broad overview of what we know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY&feature=youtu.be
“when you have so little credibility on the subject? – See more at: https://notrickszone.com/2016/11/12/critics-call-german-elitist-reaction-to-trump-victory-a-high-altitude-flight-by-arrogance-and-disdain/comment-page-1/#comment-1148120”
sop has basically ZERO CREDIBILITY on any subject
A parrot could do better than he does. !
we now know, that the wikileaks data came from Russia.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/662246/nsa-chief-openly-accuses-nation-state-using-wikileaks-tip-presidential-election
Funny, the CIA decided to only tell us AFTER the election, while Comey decided to make false accusations directly BEFORE the election.
It is really funny to read comments here.
Just imagine, things were the other way round: a foreign power interferring for Clinton, Clinton winning, while losing the popular vote, a leak about Trump from the highest ranking FBI official in the week before the election.
We would have had gun battles in the street after the election results.
But instead, the environmental movement is simply organising peaceful resistance against Trumps fight against facts and reality and for racism.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/18/global-green-movement-prepares-to-fight-trump-on-climate-change
Your BIASED use of FAR_LEFT propaganda newspapers is becoming quite funny
Do try again with some REAL information.
Diplomats are already staying in Trump Hotels to buy favors with the future president:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/2016/11/18/9da9c572-ad18-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumphotel-915pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory#comments
The corruption will increase massively in a Trump presidency.
Oh yeah. After all the cost layers, Trump will gain a few thousand if what you assert is true.
Contrast this to all the millions paid into The Clinton Foundation that Bill, Hillary and Chelsea are able to use directly.
Keep it up sod, just keep it up.