There’s capital to be derived from climate change, and now spiritual leaders and organized religion are getting in the act. And they offer a real Hell you can believe in – even certified by science!
Religion comes up with an all new, improved Hell
As enlightenment over the past decades and centuries have led the masses to doubt the once colorful concept of Hell — that fire-filled place reserved for the incorrigibly unvirtuous and run by reptilian demons — spiritual leaders have seen their clout in modern society erode. No longer is it so easy for them to control people’s behavior with feelings of guilt and threats of eternal damnation.
Recently, however, spiritual leaders have uncovered a new instrument to gain back some control over the masses: climate change – the new, and this time real Hell – yes, that’s been confirmed by 97% of the climate prophets – so disbelieve at your own risk!
Holy Words
This was demonstrated not long ago by Pope Francis’s Laudato si, His second encyclical. According to Wikipedia: “In it, the Pope critiques consumerism and irresponsible development, laments environmental degradation and global warming, and calls all people of the world to take ‘swift and unified global action’.”
The new Hell certified by “leading scientists”!
In a nutshell, do as they say or perish in climate hell. Laudato si was authored in large part by the Pope of Climate Doom himself, Prof. Hans-Joachim Schellnhuber of the ultra-alarmist Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK).
And just earlier this week, according to the online thecourier.com here now the orthodox Christians are getting in on the act too. Once again Orthodox leaders too can let themselves stand morally above all others and preach to us on our sinful ways. And should we, the masses, not heed their Holy Science-Certified Words, then the new Hell (climate change) will ferociously engulf us as never seen before.
Hat-tip: a reader
Frustrated scientists: message “not reaching people”
According to The Courier, leading climate change experts and campaigners gathered in Greece so that they could “work with the leaders of the Orthodox Church and other religions to fight global warming”.
Apparently activists and scientists are frustrated that their message is not reaching people fast enough. The two-day conference was inaugurated by “Green Patriarch” Bartholomew.
If science fails – then move on to faith!
Of course in attendance was the former PIK director and now accepted prophet Hans-Joachim (John) Schellnhuber. He told those in attendance:
Faith can help us because we scientists have tried everything. We can’t say what’s happening in a more compelling way when we warn about the end of civilization.”
According to the Courier, “hundreds of islanders” greeted Bartholomew “upon his arrival by boat”. The conference also included “long-breaded Orthodox priests” who got around in “golf carts and horse-drawn carriages”.
Climate visionaries and dignitaries
Also in attendance was a climate adviser to the Pope: Bill McKibben of 350.org; Jane Lubchenco, former NOAA head under Obama; Patricia Espinosa, UNFCC replacement for Christiana Figueres; Christiana Figueres herself, now Mission 2020; WAPO journalist Juliet Eilperin; and Jeffrey Sachs, economist, Columbia Earth Institute and climate adviser to the Pope.
No word if they came in on row boats, or horse-drawn carriages.
Has there ever been a case in history where scientists were so desperate that they turned to religion in order to get the people to accept their science?
Well, the theory of the big bang was first expressed by a priest, the abbé Georges Lemaitre of Belgium. No one has ever seen a black hole, or an atom of dark matter, nor yet detected any dark energy, or observed the warping of the space-time continuum whatever that might be. None of these things has been confirmed by any evidence, and yet they are all believed with a fervour that resembles reverence for a creation myth, and any statement of scepticism about them is met with resentment and even anger by people I know.
It seems to me that, whatever the truth of these questions, much of theoretical science has become a matter of faith and dogma, and the great Richard Feynman’s requirement for proof is being dropped .
Indeed, Stephen Fox, the rot really set in when, in order to save the embarrassment of having to keep changing the ‘constant’ of the speed of light, they just linked it to the standard meter length. QED embarrassment averted.
We can never now tell if the speed of light is truly a constant (as the theory says), or a variable. We can never know if the passage of time varies (why should it be constant?).
“No one has ever seen a black hole, or an atom of dark matter, nor yet detected any dark energy, ”
I always considered these as science “maybes”
.. because that is all they are. Hypotheses.
Anyone that treats them as any more than that is talking dogma.
AGW doesn’t even belong in the “maybe” category.
There is something at the center of our galaxy capable of deflecting the motion of stars, accelerating some to millions of miles an hour, implying that it is VERY massive. And although we can’t “see” it, it’s effects are observable.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AZhUQl-wmq0
It’s completely consistent with what is expected of a “black hole,” but not for anything else.
The evidence for dark matter/energy and string theory, on the other hand, is what some physicists describe as not very compelling.
What I like to occasionally point out is that, unlike with AGW or Darwinism, to name just two examples, experiments that test either special or general relativity are not only not forbidden, they are encouraged and occasionally still carried out. One particularly significant application of general relativity is in getting your GPS to work.
http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html
There is no other theory that can make that aspect of GPS technology work.
The thing to remember here, IMO, is that if you aren’t allowed to question or test a theory, and probe it’s limitations (all theories have limitations), those doing the prohibiting are probably (likely) hiding something important.
Who is not allowing you (or others) to test climate science theories?
And since you brought it up, do you believe the theory of evolution is wrong?
Of course a pseudoskeptic would say that … and why not, after all you seem to believe in a completely different set of laws of physics.
Nothing is real that you haven’t seen with your own eyes, right?
Just BELIEVE, seb.. (spooky twilight zone music)
.. just because someone TOLD you in a brain-hosed dream.
That’s the way, little child.
NO PROOF REQUIRED, as you have constantly shown.
Certainly the laws of physics as you “believe” them, are nothing related to reality.
A fantasy fizzics, all of your own imagining.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light#History
and under Increased accuracy of c and redefinition of the metre and second.
And also the link to ‘See also: History of the metre’
In other words the metre and the second depends on the measurement of the speed of light, which in turn is dependent on the measurement of the metre and the second.
Not quite … the meter depends on the speed of light, the second depends on the “transition frequency of the ground state of caesium-133”.
There is no circular definition problem here.
But we do know that already. It has been observed and proven: time varies.
We also know that distance varies, since the universe is expanding and more specifically since gravitational waves were detected for the first time.
@SebastianH 11. June 2018 at 11:42 AM |
Glad to see you have proved you bona fides in understanding physics seb.
You have not let me down in your understanding 🙂
Just one little question the second depends on the “transition frequency of the ground state of caesium-133”.
How do they measure that frequency? 🙂
@tomOmason
Here’s a talk Richard Feynman gave on what we know about light (we’ll, what we can calculate, anyway) that you might find interesting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eLQ2atfqk2c
Also, for fun, here’s one of the world’s top organic chemists giving a brutally in depth analysis of how life arising by chance chemical reactions is impossible.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_zQXgJ-dXM4
Enjoy.
I am glad that you felt the need to vaguely declare your superior physics knowledge again without actually proving me wrong. Keep it going …
Is that a serious question? You count the transitions and once they reached the value that defines a second, you have the duration that is a second.
Are you confused by the word frequency and that the unit of frequencies contains the unit “seconds”?
Thanks Yonason 12. June 2018 at 9:19 AM,
I can always find time (oops pun) for real science from people like Richard Feynman.
“Lectures on Christianity” … well … it can’t get more unscientific, can it?
And you guys condemn climate science as religious? Got to be kidding me …
“You count the transitions and once they reached the value that defines a second, you have the duration that is a second.”
Or maybe you are confused, seb, measurement of frequency is the measurement of transitions per second (used to be cycles per second, or kcs/s, Mc/s etc., now it’s non-descriptively named it Hertz, kHz, MHz, etc.)
And how exactly do they count these transitions per second and know they are accurate as possible? And how do they ensure this degree of accuracy? A comparative measurement?
Or are you going to show more of your ignorance?
Well, at least you a finally showing how little you understand about math and physics. Thank you for that.
You just count them. When you counted the required number of transitions a second has passed. Suppose you have something that beeps a thousand times per hour. What amount of time has passed when you counted a thousand beeps?
Huh? Think of the device that counts those transitions to be super accurate. It never misses any transition. Once 9,192,631,770 transitions have been counted, a second has passed. No ambiquity, no inaccuracy.
You might ask now how we got to 9,192,631,770 transitions per second … well, we defined the second to be just that.
Oh please feel free to demonstrate more of your vast knowledge about time and space. Sorry, but with this reply you definetly let down your pants. If you are at this level of understanding, it makes no sense to argue with you.
How to count pulses (or transitions) per second — aka how to count frequency.
You use something called a frequency counter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_counter.
The question then is — when you go for the very best accuracy, and precision what is used to ensure the timebase (or reference oscillator) of this device is kept super accurate? After all the reference oscillator is calibrated against something right? I wonder what…
Don’t ask seb, he’s just too technically ignorant of how the real world works.
P.S.
He wouldn’t understand that the same instrument is also used for measuring time accurately, or that it’s the counter’s ‘reference oscillator’ that defines it’s accuracy (and not the number of digits it shows). And that for extremely accurate measurements that reference is locked to a better external reference source (like National Bureau of Standards or, if you can afford it, better 🙂 )
I should know as I’ve adjusted oscillators for national corporations to National Standards quite a few times (oops pun!).
Don’t make it worse than it is, tomOmason.
You seem to have it backwards. We don’t want to measure the frequency of something, you want to measure the length of a second. You just count ticks, not ticks in a certain timespan. 9,192,631,770 transitions later and you have a second.
You don’t need a reference for that. Just count how many cars drive by and after a pre-defined number of cars a certain a certain amount of time has passed that we from now on call “car-hour”. Now cars aren’t that accurate, the transition between energy states of Caesium-133 is super accurate and stable. That’s why it has been chosen to define the length of a second.
You shouldn’t write something like that when you just have shown that you have no clue at all.
@tom0mason 12. June 2018 at 10:23 AM
I hope NTZ readers take note that our resident troll attacks the messenger, the “Pascal lectures on Christianity and the university” …
https://uwaterloo.ca/pascal-lectures/
…because the message, synthetic organic chemistry refutes spontaneous generation, is unassailable.
Sebastian is so committed to spewing propaganda that he can’t even bring himself to site the whole title, or link to it’s source, where one reads about it’s founder…
“Professor Satyan L. Devadoss is the Fletcher Jones Chair of Applied Mathematics at the University of San Diego, and holds a Ph.D. in mathematics from The Johns Hopkins University.”
The littler the dog, the louder the bark.
Please understand seb, you really are showing you ignorance in these matters.
I was employed on such matters for industry both nationally and internationally over 40 years, and you have just shown everyone you know nothing. I have hands-on experience with this type of equipment doing the job. Equipment by people likes of HP and others, for companies like the UK’s and Europe’s, and USA’s primary international broadcasters.
So just be quiet and go and look it up. You may learn something about your gross lack of knowledge.
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I’ll leave it for all others to decide who knows better, the the pompous, arrogant, knownothing called SebastianH, blagging his way through life with pockets stuffed with 2nd hand theories, or the guy (me) that did it for a living.
You really are a piece of work seb, but obviously not that employable. I’m retired what’s your excuse for being here every day? Paid to do it?
Do you think experience in doing something wrong does make it right?
You just demonstrated that you have no clue how to count time. You think there are circular definitions involved. It’s weird and I indeed hope “others” are taking note of this subthread. I’ll bookmark it for later reference …
btw: you call me arrogant for pointing this out to you, even trying to explain it to you? What do you call your behavior then?
Poor seb BASKING in his wannabe arrogance yet again
Proven IGNORANCE at many, many levels
But his baseless ego will NEVER let him admit that he is most often, just PLAIN WRONG.
As tom0 says, you have just PROVEN yourself as having a knowledge and understanding base of that of a low level junior high student.
The funny thing is that..
YOU DON’T EVEN REALISE IT.. 🙂
“It’s weird and I indeed hope “others” are taking note of this subthread”
Most certainly are, seb.
As you do a manic and spectacular FACEPLANT, yet again, falling straight into the trap set for you by tom0..
This time, so blindingly lacking in awareness that you don’t even realise it after the fact.
It is certainly extremely funny watching you to continue to display your incredible INEPTITUDE and your totally twisted and dissonant understanding of anything to do with science, physics or maths.
seb said
“It has been observed and proven: time varies.”
Now he says it is set by the frequency of Caesium-133
OOPS !!
“Do you think experience in doing something wrong does make it right?”
You believe you can judge me. Ha, ha, ha.
No, but then again you wouldn’t understand – your not bright enough.
I have carried on down this argument to demonstrate what an arrogant clod you really are.
You have not let me down.
You have amply shown that you do not understand the very basics of technology. That the counting of pulses (your transitions — a word you’ve copied from somewhere else, without understanding it) is the measurement of frequency. That you are ignorant of how frequency and distance (length) are related, and to appreciate it all actually means something in the real world.
You do not understand the basic principles of time, frequency, distance measurements and their calibration, yet you insist on spouting arrant puerile nonsense.
You have aptly demonstrated that you’re a fake! (at least to my satisfaction).
Your technical knowledge is woeful, and yet you pompously fire-off junk on this blog as if you believe you know something. Probably that belief is real in your head but it does not mean you know anything, only that you believe you do.
But as I’ve demonstrated (at least to my satisfaction) you are just ignorant conman here. All buster and misplaced self-confidence.
I’ve assessed me so let me return the favor —
My assessment of you — At best you’re unemployed, at worst your employed in advertising. Either way you are not in the slightest technically trained, or knowledgeable.
You probably deserve people’s pity more than their approbation.
For everyone else here who can understand please see how frequency, length and time are related by Googling f=λ/t, (frequency=wavelength/time) and then decide who is the conman here.
P.S. The very basic standards of today link frequency, time, length and voltage together.
or just read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_clock, where they explain that
“This definition makes the caesium oscillator the primary standard for time and frequency measurements, called the caesium standard. The definitions of other physical units, e.g., the volt and the metre, rely on the definition of the second.”
Unbelievable, you made it even worse.
And the irony of calling me arrogant and still write replies like these. Wth …
One more time, for the record. How do we define time? We take a very accurate source of regular “ticks” and define an arbitrary number of ticks and when this number of ticks have been counted, a second has passed.
Simple as that. No calibration, no reference. No arrogant tomOmason who thinks others are not bright enough, but has no clue himself.
The measurement of frequency is if you count pulses per second (or another unit of time). You still have it backwards. We defined the second to be a certain number of pulses (transition periods), so when we count the pulses, we know exactly when one second has passed.
This is oozing of arrogance … but nice try at trolling me. I know a similar person in another forum. He regularly talks people down because of his experience, but everyone knows that he is talking nonsense. Here, the usual suspects seem to support nonsense just to troll the AGW opponents. It’s fun to watch.
AndyG55, the effects of relativity are beyond you … who would have guessed 😉
Hawking himself recanted : Information Preservation and Weather Forecasting for Black Holes https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.5761?context=hep-th
No joke, well worth reading. I strongly suspect he was about to drop another bombshell on the big bang.
Sure spacetime waves were detected, but the source? We cannot even verify our local galactic 4million solar-mass dense object.
“ No one has ever seen a black hole, or an atom of dark matter, nor yet detected any dark energy, or observed the warping of the space-time continuum whatever that might be. “
Oh please, where have you been all this time? They have just detected black holes via gravitional waves which are indeed a warping of space time. You might as well say radio waves dont exist because you cant see them either.
Stephen,
I like the way “scientists” anthropomorphize the universe in their efforts to “explain” the double-slit experiment. They couldn’t just say, “We don’t understand how the detectors prevent the interference pattern.” No, they prefer to mess with an intelligent universe or with causality which operates backwards in time.
Good grief. Most anyone could think of 1 or 2 explanations that leave the universe blissfully uncaring and causality having its correct relation to time.
And doesn’t the current “flavour of the decade” in Astrophysics – i.e. “String Theory” have no way of testing its reality? Personally, I think that a lot of the weirder Astrophysics could be explained by light slowing down when it travels intergalactic distances. “Aether Theory” anyone?
Stephen Fox -black holes see this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-xCMZLUc2A
Birds of a feather.
And profitable nest eggs of a holy father.
“long-breaded Orthodox priests” bread in the beard?
funny
END OF CIVILIZATION
How could it be otherwise, with greenies at the helm.
https://www.iceagenow.info/shut-down-or-lose-5-million-an-hour/
If we continue down that road, we’ll return to the idyllic past, when we were so much more in tune with nature.
https://www.iceagenow.info/how-to-foster-famine/
NOT!
The conference also included “long-breaded Orthodox priests” who got around in “golf carts (CO2) and horse-drawn carriages (Methane)”. GUILTY on both accounts. It’ll be hell for ye!
Yep, with CAGW you’re Born again….
Scientific priest Mann: “I said CAGW”
Congregation: “We believe!”
Scientific priest Schmidt: “I said, Climate change!”
Congregation: “We have sinned with fossil fuels!”
Scientific Cardinal Schellnhuber: “Repent my children, REPENT! As Sister Kathrine Hayhoho passes among you, give due reparations for your CARBON SINS”
And throughout all lands echoed a great clanging as billions of coins fall into the bottomless bucket of UN-Absolution-Carbon-Tax.
Soon there followed the ‘Sin Eaters’ of wind and solar generation intermittently powering the sanctity of political virtue signals flashing through the MSM, as each nation reached a “state of (dis)grace”.
And the Earth reeled in UN-sustainable pollution.
And the UN saw it was good, and exceedingly lucrative.
Here endth the first reading!
Carbon taxes are the new religious “indulgences” to ease the conscience of virtue signallers.
And relieve the general population of their hard-earned cash to line the pockets of the “elite” who can effectively lobby governments with their green nonsense.
Hi Pierre,
Hope you are well.
These fanatics will believe in catastrophic global warming until Hell freezes over.
For the record, I predicted that natural global cooling would commence by 2020 to 2030, in an article published 1Sept2002 in the Calgary Herald. I am now leaning closer to 2020 for cooling to start.
I hope to be wrong. Humanity suffers during cooling periods.
Best, Allan
I’m right with you there ALLAN MACRAE, have a good day. 😀
Allan, the big question is, would humanity suffer more under a protracted cooling spell..
.. than they would under a protracted implementation of the CAGW agenda.
Trouble is, both look like happening !!
I agree Andy – it’s the perfect storm: The damage and destruction of our energy systems to “fight global warming”… all in a cooling world.
CO2 is a cooling agent of the atmosphere. What if the pontiffs of the climate church blames us to be the culprit of the cooling based on real science?
The net effect of CO2 in the atmosphere is not a cooling effect, John Brown. These kind of unscientific comments by skeptics is what also discredits possible valid points of criticism from your community.
The net effect of CO2 in the atmosphere is not a WARMING effect.
These kind of scientifically unsupportable mantra yappings is what discredits the whole AGW cult religion.
And John is totally correct, CO2 is part of the atmosphere, and the net effect is to cool the surface when it gets warmer than the gravity thermal based temperature gradient can sustain. ie net cooling effect.
There is NO PROVABLE WARMING from enhanced atmospheric CO2.
If anyone needs to stop posting unsupportable BS it is you AndyG55.
darn, I was sure I closed the bolding after 2 words. 🙁
Poor empty seb.. desperate and petulant.
There is NO PROVABLE WARMING from enhanced atmospheric CO2.
Every time you saying anything about CO2 warming it is SCIENTIFICALLY UNSUPPORTABLE BS
But that is all you are capable of.
Do you really DENY that the gravity based thermal gradient exists ????
REALLY ???
WOW.!!
You live in a la-la fantasy land that is for sure !!
“You are charged with preaching wrongful, pernicious, and misleading doctrine about anthropogenic climate change.”
So with the hounding of the ‘deniers’, the AGC community is becoming the new Inquisition?
Oh no! There goes the narrative!
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2018/06/02/warmest-may-evah-no-that-was-in-1833/
ASIDE – speaking of “hell.”
http://political-dissonance.tumblr.com/image/174411119620
Yonason (from a friend’s comp) very good 😀
Thx |:-)
I suspect Shell-hubber knows exactly where he will end up for all his LIES and DECEIT.
His mind is already in a Hell of his own making.. he is destined for the loonie bin.
I suggest the word “hell” is another word which has been hijacked and given an altered meaning.
“Hell” appears in the original, English translation of the Bible frequently.
The Authorised or King James version.
This is Olde English and in that context “hell” meant the grave as the place where the dead go.
The idea of being “alive” in “hell”or the grave is somewhat weird!
McKibben was here in Oz spreading the word. I assume he flew in via a jet spreading chemtrails if one is inclined to believe that nonsense. And BTW who is paying those fares? Anyway its all a religion to the believers and of course the Pope has been sucked in to the mantra. How could he be wrong, he’s getting his info direct from God.
Speaking of God,my parents used to send me off to Sunday School when I was about 8 yrs old. That was until I came home early one day and said to both of them ” that man up there cannot answer any of my questions and I am not going back there again”. Dad in his wisdom said ” that’s fine by me son ”
So I say to anyone who does not believe the AGW mantra “that’s fine by me”
Steve,
My friend Carrie, aged 6, was being sermonized about the evils of alcohol: “And if you put a goldfish in it, it will DIE.”
The imp said, “What would happen if you put it in milk?”
lol – beautiful child.
I like the one about the rib woman and talking snake better… At least that version had better plot… The snake was cunning and deceitful and was envious of the rib woman and her old man
I like the one about the rib woman and talking snake better… At least that version had better plot… The snake was cunning and deceitful and was envious of the rib woman and her old man … The whole thing was a set up by the landlord who needed to evict them because he regretted the whole idea of them cutting in on his business so he curse’s them no more free energy you’ll have to burn wood coal or oil to stay warm. So they do a pretty good job of figuring out how to make life bearable when another group figures out how the original scam worked and upgraded to hell 2.0 claiming that the decendants we’re making a mess of things again so they would have to make a sacrifice to the huge windmill god who dwelt over the land. The sun who was envious of the windmill said to the women’s decendants make me an offering of solar panels and worship me and I will make a Paradise of earth again. But some of the decendants figured it out and told them all to go pound sand and they lived happily ever after…
Someone should tell the pope that its a church nave..
.. not a church naïve.
“and this time real Hell – yes, that’s been confirmed by 97% of the climate prophets – so disbelieve at your own risk!”
Many believe in AGW & the Sustainable Development of which it’s a part because they don’t know the motive for the hoax. All those nice people on the tube, scientists, religious leaders– why should they lie?
Science isn’t enough, guys. We’ve got to be more successful at explaining the motive for espousing anti-science.
They might not like the explanation – see below.
I would love to see our resident AGW cultist defend this idiocy.
Would be slap-stick comedy at its best. 🙂
But it must be the weekend or something.
What exactly is there to defend? Pierre going into a tantrum because religious leaders are also concerned about climate change? Trying to paint a picture of climate science being a religion?
Those are the last straws that pseudoskeptics are grabbing when their “facts” don’t work. Just call it a religion or cult and be done with it. Seems to work, since you are falling for it.
Have a nice day
Not so fast. Please see my comment below – the two Churches are linked by a cult indeed, from Windsor Castle. Perhaps these pragmatic leaders see Climate CO2 as a way to heal the Great Scism of 1054, however at the price of science, and creative reason. The imposition of licenses for all branches of the cult, ala Constantine of ancient Rome being one objective. Looks like the Vatican got its license with Laudato Si. Mt. Athos seems to be petitioning. Mann et. al. already got theirs.
Question : are you certified?
I am an atheist, but to your comment I have to reply with “OMG” followed by “WTH”. Everything alright at your end?
No, you are an AGW cultist.
Rejoice in the joining to a real religion, seb. !
Both religions that just “believe”..
Your flock of gullibility runeth over.
I knew you would think this idiocy from the AGW cabal was quite sane
The religious leaders are not in the least concerned about climate change..
.. other wise they would find out the facts. Something you have NEVER bothered to do either.
AGW is a cult, a religion, and the poop is just the right person to lead it as all the others FAIL.
These are YOUR people, seb
They are where you belong.
You go on and believe whatever you have to to keep you (in-)sane. If that includes the fantasy of climate scientists trying to get their message out via the church, so be it … it’s only another addon to the myriade of non-sense you believe in.
Combined anti-science religions…
Failed scientists using religion as a crutch.
So sadly pathetic to see from both ends.
Your people seb… wear it.
REJOICE. ! 😉
OMG from an atheist? To be certified AGW, an approval from apropriate Royals is required. Dr. John Schellnhuber got his CBE in 2004, the Pope’s with Laudato Si, and Bartholemu has likely got a seal of approval from Prince Philip’s Mt Athos Greek residence. Mann certainly sounds like he accepted foreign honors. Obama was forbidden such honors constitutionally and is now vetting the next election AGW candidates, paid for by Prince Philip’s WWF in his north D.C offices.
WTH what the Hell is going on, indeed.
Your absolute PANIC and despair at the joining of these two base religious cults is a wonder to behold, seb.
Tell us seb, in your AGW worships do you also use a pot of incense (or whatever) and wear weird robes and a funny hat?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/ae/d8/1daed852f1f472b70780004036ded7c8.jpg
As I said.. expect slap-stick comedy..
.. and you did not disappoint 🙂
My absolute panic? From what I am reading it is rather you who seems to in a constant state of panic …
Slap-stick comedy continues. 🙂
You can’t help yourself.
It all you have.
You just don’t realise you are doing it.
So Funny.. So sad. 🙂
So sad indeed … sad clown. I hope your troll performance is intentional. If not, well … Trump level incompetence.
poor seb
reduce to a mindless parrot like non-entity.
Please keep posting seb
Its hilarious 🙂
@AndyG55
Speaking of sad little clowns, Seb’s Leftist fellow travelers take the cake.
https://spectator.org/scoring-the-summit/
Meanwhile back at the ranch(vatican) our Pope is demanding that oil companies (???) provide the poor people with windmills and plastic panels
to cook their meagre rations. At the same time Legal and General investments are demanding total obsequiousness to the global warming goddess Gaia, otherwise they will not invest in such heathens.
And yet the world goes around.
Btw I must take my money out of L and G asap.
There certainly seems to be a concerted Vatican – Orthodox green action going on. The only way to understand this is the involvement of Dr. John Schellnhuber dubbed in 2004 Commander or the Order of the British Empire by the Queen personally at the Berlin Empbassy, author of the Vatican’s “Laudato Si” – the encyclical from Hell. At the same time Prince Philip’s well known family affinity for the Mt Athos Orthodox Church. Here we have the culmination of the “World Summit on Religion and Conservation,” held at the Windsor Castle, under the personal direction of Prince Philip and Martin Palmer.
Of course there are those that say all these events spontaneously ooze from society in an unknowable way – the alchemy of old.
The only problem is this titanic under full steam just hit a Chinese iceberg, Confucianism in action with the Belt and Road initiative.
“The only problem is this titanic under full steam just hit a Chinese iceberg, Confucianism in action with the Belt and Road initiative.”
Aii, bonbon, I wish it were so. Rome also built roads to the conquered territories. China voted for Agenda 21 & Agenda 30. China has been most diligent in compulsorily resettling rural villages to all those “empty cities.” China has no tradition of democracy or rights.
As a frequenter of used-book shops I can tell you that books of the 40s and even 50s were frank about including the Chinese in global governance as the regional rulers of Asia.
Of course we “know” that China & Russia are opposing the West, right? And our source is the same media that lies to us about AGW. And the State Dept that lies to us about Syria and is a part of the govt that subsidizes AGW.
https://www.corbettreport.com/china-and-the-new-world-order-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLlDVpPhROU
To be sure there are economic rivalries, but some examples of the integration of China’s oligarchs w ours:
–Rockefeller & Rothschild have important financial positions in China
–A major portion of Western R&D is done in China.
–Chinese own important US properties and run about 40% of our ports
–Chinese control Panama Canal through ownership of its largest port
The Belt & Road project, in a free world, would bring prosperity. But in present circumstances it is the physical integration of what is planned as compulsory political integration.
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Little Red Books from the 40’s and 50’s? It’s a long time since I heard that. China went through utter hell with the Gang of Four, recovered its ancient Confucianism that even Mao could’nt erase. Listen to the highly educate Premier and his predecessor – it is Frankin Rooseveldt , FDR’s New Deal, Chinese style, that is underway. The New Silk Road is an ugrade on a massive scale immediately shown to be New Deal style.
It is the British Royals, and its EU (even Trudeau thought the Queens Canada was EU) trying to go backwards to Ancient Rome with an earth religion – Mithra. This plan in full swing over 40 years has been holed – its going down like another Titanic – get DiCaprio in for the sequel. Trump recognises a titanic when he sees one – the G7. It is compulsory to get off that Titanic, fast!
bonbon, I don’t know what Little Red Books are. The ones I refer to were publications of the Council on Foreign Relations, in which they were more open about their desire for a global govt, and China was to head up the Asian region of it. They were behind the League of Nations.
I love the Chinese people, but they are not in charge. A few oligarchs control everything, just as in Russia. The links I gave you tell of a meeting between the Chinese oligarchs in Chase Manhattan’s boardroom where the development of the Chinese economy was planned & huge Western investments were committed.
Yonason 11. June 2018 at 3:56 PM
Thank you for the thoughtful comment & very interesting links. Quite a connection between relativity & GPS. I’m not QUITE sure that appeal to relativity is necessary to explain the computation interaction between earth & satellites, but it’s a fascinating explanation.
Penelope, it’s not about the interaction between Earth and GPS satellites. It’s about the clocks on board the satellites. There are in a different reference frame and thus the onboard time needs to be compensated in order for GPS to work accurately. It works by sending multiple time and satellite location signals to your receiver, if those time signals aren’t accurate, you don’t get an accurate position (calculated from the durations of the signals until they reached your receiver).
Yeah, I know it’s the clocks, Seb. Thanks.
You’re welcome. And thanks again to you for tipping me off to that excellent article on the who’s who of AGW con artists.
Also, here’s a fun read by Chris Booker on how manufactured “consensus” in certain scientific fields is maintained.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2010/09/scientists-in-hiding/
Fortunately there are those willing to pursue the facts in spite of fascist suppression and noisy yapping of “true believers.” Eventually the facts will prevail.
Yonason,
Actually, the Senate’s “Environmental Chain of Command” was just a snapshot of a brief period of the billionaire’s support of AGW. Obviously it continues, and can be seen by googling “environmental funding,” most of which is AGW. Worse still, “climate change funding.”
The Spectator link was amusing, but of course is subject to its own political correctness, being published by one of the 6 megamedia companies.
Hence it cannot identify that political correctness in science arises not from the culture, but from TPTB via money, power, and control of media & govt.
“Eventually the facts will prevail.” They haven’t about 9-11, the JFK assassination, or the way the Federal Reserve/IMF system so greatly reduces development around the world.
Or even a true rendition of the causes of WWI & II. Wm Engdahl is an eminent historian who documents his work thoroughly. I’ve read about 4 of his books. Of his videos this one’s the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_-A-uDu2fQ
When they admit it’s growing cooler, the solution will be the same: We must live in small human habitation zones where energy and other services can more readily be provided.
I am smelling conspiracy theories …
“I am smelling conspiracy theories …”
Why is it always you that brings up the words “conspiracy theory” ?
What are you trying to hide ??
Yonason,oops, the link was to an excellent Watt presentation.
The Engdahl one is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoCMc-KU8TA
The first couple minutes is another guy then Engdahl. He;s an historian w specialties in economics & oil.
Thanks, Penelope, for some interesting thoughts.
Just a word of caution, though – be careful of Lyndon LaRouche. He’s a far Leftist and convicted felon.
https://archive.org/stream/LyndonLaroucheAndTheNewAmericanFascism/LLNAF_djvu.txt
Yonason, agreed about Larouche. Engdahl was only slightly connected; has appeared on many people’s websites.
Incidentally, Larouche was the first– about 1945– to propose the Asian Landbridge. His efforts were prodigous in the past 25 years, for what he called The New Silk Road.
His organization has a lot of correct ideas, but he’s a bit of a megalomaniac. Still he correctly identified the strategy of the British oligarchs in the 40s, and that the “National System” economic strategy of Fredrick List was the correct opposing policy for her colonies and the world.
Thanks.