The Great New Year’s Freeze Of 2017 Setting Cold Records …And Leading To Outlandish ‘Climate’ Claims

Meteorologist Joe Bastardi warned of a cold snap gripping the Eastern US many weeks ago, in October, at his Weatherbell Analytics site, which I visit almost daily.

Chart source: NOAA, public domain.

Today it’s all over the news: The Great Freeze of 2017 is smashing through the entire North American East, bringing with it a wave of record temperatures.

Cold records to sweep across continent

Dr. Ryan Maue posted at Twitter 2 days ago:

Many Daytime Record Low Maximums will be set on Dec 31 and Jan 1 for New Year’s celebrations — that means the afternoon high temperature for the day is really cold.”

President Trump put his patented sense of humor on display at Twitter, provoking climate alarmists:

In the East, it could be the COLDEST New Year’s Eve on record. Perhaps we could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming that our Country, but not other countries, was going to pay TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to protect against. Bundle up!”

Tremendous snowfall

The cold snap brought with it huge, record-breaking snowfall in Erie, Pennsylvania totaling near 1.5 meters of snow, which led to photos of the sort we used to see decades ago, in the 1960s.

Toronto totally smashed the previous previous record for December 28 set in 1960, when it hit -18.9°C, recording -22°C. “It’s basically all across the country that the cold weather is entrenched, and it’s not going away quickly,” said Peter Kimbell. The CBC reports that extreme cold snap expected to linger indefinitely, citing Environment Canada.

The UK Telegraph reports the Niagara Falls has frozen over with wind chills of -89°F!

Coldest in a century

In the US, in Missouri for example, here warns that this weekend temperatures could be the coldest in a century. Already a number of events are getting cancelled due to the extreme cold.

Criticism on blaming it on a climate trend

It’s no surprise both sides are rushing to (mis)use the event as evidence to support their side of the climate issue. Veteran meteorologist Joe Bastardi tweeted here that it’s a purely natural event that has nothing to do with cooling or CO2:

It’s a shame that any extreme event gets weaponized depending on agenda being pushed. Laid out for all to see in Oct real time battle test based on ace/enso relationship for early season cold. Had everything to do with 1933, 1950, 1995, 2005, 2010 ace, TYPE of La Nina idea, not CO2.”

In Germany Spiegel science journalist Axel Bojanowski also hit both sides of the issue, taking a jab at both Trump and hockey stich chart producer Micheal E. Mann at Twitter here:

Trump’s nonsense argument against climate change (“cold weather”) counters the most famous climate researcher M. Mann with a similar argument (“warm weather”). Both are widely retweeted. Sad.”

CNN sharply criticized Trump’s humor, claiming that the President does not know the difference between climate and weather. Strange how CNN develops sudden amnesia over all the times they’ve suggested single hurricanes, droughts or tornadoes showed climate change.

Due to ocean cycles, little to do with CO2

At a recent Daily Summary, Joe called the Great Freeze a “major event” and warned the cold would spread and deepen over the coming days. He questions that CO2 could be responsible for the global warming of the past century, suspecting rather that it is due to ocean surface temperature cycles and thus increased water vapor in the air.

Joe is likely as right, or even more so, than any other expert – as only he predicted the cold way back in October using natural patterns of the past. No one else went out on that limb.


102 responses to “The Great New Year’s Freeze Of 2017 Setting Cold Records …And Leading To Outlandish ‘Climate’ Claims”

  1. Lasse

    A December to remember was promised in October. He is convinced of patterns in weather that can be recalled from past. He has two generations of knowledge and easily beats the models.

  2. SebastianH

    And of course, globally it looks like this:

    The anomaly is 0.5K.

    President Trump put his patented sense of humor on display at Twitter, provoking climate alarmists:

    When in doubt blame incompetence. He is doing this not with any intention to provoke, he is doing it because he doesn’t know better.

    No one else went out on that limb.

    Because it is a “limb”?

    1. RAH

      SebastianH 31. December 2017 at 3:17 PM | Permalink | Reply

      “President Trump put his patented sense of humor on display at Twitter, provoking climate alarmists:
      When in doubt blame incompetence. He is doing this not with any intention to provoke, he is doing it because he doesn’t know better.”

      Go ahead SebastianH and keep underestimating him just like every other person and organization that opposes him. First the guy running for the Republican nomination was a joke! Then when he won the Nomination by a landslide there was not way he would be elected president. Then after winning the election by a margin of 304 to 227 over the pre-ordained Queen Hillary he was still considered an idiot by the opposition.

      Now at the end of his first year he has:
      Gotten the US out of the Paris Accord.

      Gotten a tax bill passed that has the greatest tax reduction since JFK that is going to have effects globally as other countries have to follow suit to remain competitive.

      He has installed a very conservative constitutional constructionist on the Supreme Court.

      He has gotten more of his lower court appointed during his first term than any president in history and they are almost all younger conservative justices.

      He has overturned half of Obama’s executive orders.

      He has cut funding to the UN and made it clear that body is going to see more cuts as he made the gutsy decision to move the US embassy to Jerusalem. (Something several US presidents paid lip service to but never did.) Thus telling the PA to shove it where the sun don’t shine.

      He has redirected the EPA back towards it’s original intended purpose.

      He has the US economy and markets going gangbusters and unemployment is approaching historically low levels.

      Both food stamp and welfare enrollment has dropped dramatically.

      US/allied forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have taken control of more territory from ISIS and the Taliban than they did during the eight years of Obama’s administration. And a big reason why is because as CNC Trump changed what are called the “Rules of Engagement”. It has been a great moral booster for those doing the dirty work there and has allowed for the quick advancement over the last few months.

      All that and more has been accomplished under his leadership while everyone calls him an idiot and the deep state establishment and the general press have done all they could to oppose him and depose him. Yea. Just keep on thinking that Donald Trump is an incompetent boob! WE LIKE IT THAT WAY! MAGA!

      1. tom0mason

        Yes, RAH, I point all this out to my sister in California but she never listens, just says Trump is an idiot and stole the vote from Hillary! (Haha).

        Also Trump has kept a wary eye on the Chinese, getting them listening and paying attention to what the USA wants and wishes to see happen — so unlike his predecessor.

      2. Lou Maytrees

        The absolute arrogance of Republicans on display. The last Con president we had left office with the Stock Market in disarray, spiraling down below 6500, nearing worldwide depression territory, then a Democratic president takes over and without any Con help turns the economy around and builds it to record highs over 8 years, but now after only 11 months in office its Trump who has the economy ‘booming’. Con amnesia. Trump, the guy who claims America’s real unemployment rate is over 40%.

        1. AndyG55

          Are there tablets for your rabid anti-Trump disease?

          Go get a prescription…. or a life.

          1. Lou Maytrees

            How embarrassing for you and RAH, AndyG55. The (fair and balanced lol) FakeNews Channel showed a graph that Trump created less jobs per month in his first year than Obama did in 6 of his last 7 years. Wowzers! That’s what you folks call his ‘booming economy’ eh? As long as you keep your standards way low whatever Trump does is booming.

          2. AndyG55

            “FakeNews Channel showed”

            Then STOP watching CNN etc !!

            Obama was lucky to come is as the economy recovered from the Sub-prime mess caused by Clinton. Economy grew DESPITE him.

        2. RAH

          It just takes that typical partisan based denial to not see what has happened and is happening. Obama told the manufacturing sector “those jobs are gone”. Since Trump became POTUS the manufacturing sector has gained strength and jobs.

          “Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 228,000 in November. Employment continued to
          trend up in professional and business services, manufacturing, and health care. Employment
          growth has averaged 174,000 per month thus far this year, compared with an average monthly
          gain of 187,000 in 2016. (See table B-1.)

          Employment in professional and business services continued on an upward trend in November
          (+46,000). Over the past 12 months, the industry has added 548,000 jobs.

          In November, manufacturing added 31,000 jobs. Within the industry, employment rose in
          machinery (+8,000), fabricated metal products (+7,000), computer and electronic products
          (+4,000), and plastics and rubber products (+4,000). Since a recent low in November 2016,
          manufacturing employment has increased by 189,000.

          Health care added 30,000 jobs in November. Most of the gain occurred in ambulatory health
          care services (+25,000), which includes offices of physicians and outpatient care centers.
          Monthly employment growth in health care has averaged 24,000 thus far in 2017, compared
          with an average increase of 32,000 per month in 2016.

          Within construction, employment among specialty trade contractors increased by 23,000 in
          November and by 132,000 over the year.

          Employment in other major industries, including mining, wholesale trade, retail trade,
          transportation and warehousing, information, financial activities, leisure and hospitality,
          and government, changed little over the month.

          The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls increased by 0.1 hour
          to 34.5 hours in November. In manufacturing, the workweek was unchanged at 40.9 hours, and
          overtime remained at 3.5 hours. The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory
          employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged at 33.7 hours. (See tables B-2 and

          In November, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls rose
          by 5 cents to $26.55. Over the year, average hourly earnings have risen by 64 cents, or
          2.5 percent. Average hourly earnings of private-sector production and nonsupervisory
          employees rose by 5 cents to $22.24 in November. (See tables B-3 and B-8.)

          The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for September was revised up from +18,000
          to +38,000, and the change for October was revised down from +261,000 to +244,000. With
          these revisions, employment gains in September and October combined were 3,000 more than
          previously reported.”

        3. AndyG55

          Obama came in on the back of sub-prime housing collapse..

          In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods.

          It was the Clinton administration that was responsible setting up the farce that led to the sub-prime housing collapse.

          1. SebastianH

            It was the Clinton administration that was responsible setting up the farce that led to the sub-prime housing collapse.

            Are you sure it weren’t the banks?

          2. AndyG55


            “In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods.”

          3. RAH

            The banks were forced by law to give mortgages called “sub-prime” to those that would never have qualified previously. The program had it’s beginnings under Carter and then Clinton with the democrats in congress expanded it.

            Instead of fighting the regulations in court the banks just sold off their risky mortgages to consolidators or larger banks who then had the loans insured. Eventually the whole house of cards fell, as it eventually must. That in turn brought about the long overdue collapse of GM and Chrysler, launching the US and most of the rest of the world into a recession.

            No laws or regulations, no matter how well intended, can overcome economic realities. The idea was to get poor people into home ownership. That concept denies the reality that most poor people are poor because they poorly managed their lives, do not make the necessary income to do more than live from hand to mouth and that is how they “manage” their finances.

      3. Lou Maytrees

        And LOL – ‘greatest reduction since JFK …’ The 1964 Tax bill reduced top tier individual taxes from 91% to 70% and the Corporate Tax Rate from 52% to 48%. Reagan in 1986 alone cut the top rate from 50% to 28% and Corporate from 46% to 34%, so you’re not even close with the ‘since JFK’ history remake try.
        And Reagan only tripled the Nat’l Debt, so no problemo.

    2. AndyG55

      “When in doubt blame incompetence. “

      We look at your posts, and yes, its the only possible thing to do.

      There is no doubt that you are incompetent, seb.

    3. David Reich

      Then what do you make of all the hundreds of media and “climate scientist” claims by the likes of Katherine Hayhoe this past Sept that the Atlantic Gulf Hurricanes (Harvey, Maria, Irma) were caused by manmade climate change (CO2) in the face of the FACT that Global cyclone activity for 2017 is only 78% of the recent 1981-2010 trend??? Aren’t such claims equally specious?

      1. Lou Maytrees

        Climate scientists did not make that claim, that was media spin that made the claim. Climate scientists said AGW added to the hurricanes, but they were not ’caused’ by it.

        1. AndyG55

          Zero proof that BNRW added to hurricanes.

          Hurricane levels are down. Energy levels are down

          As you say, they “say it”….. meaningless.

          1. Lou Maytrees

            AndyG55 – You obviously don’t understand what relative humidity is or determines. The lower the relative humidity means the more water vapor the atmosphere can hold. Ole & Clive’s graphs have misled you and you’ve misinterpreted them. Their graphs show the warmer atmosphere can hold more water. You should try reading some science on water vapor and gas laws maybe.

            And you can shout ‘rubbish’ all you want, its still only the RW media that claimed scientists blamed hurricanes on AGW. Scientists did not make that claim, only rw media spin did.

          2. AndyG55

            ROFLMAO.. trying to blame the media for the alarmist comments.

            So funny. 🙂

            Odd we never see these alarmists “scientists” come out and say .. “I’ve been misquoted in my idiotic alarmist statement”.

            But hey.. so long as the alarmism get out there.. right 😉

          3. Lou Maytrees

            AndyG try to keep up. The reply was about the hurricanes and ‘warmer surface waters’. Wake up little Andy, get w the program, even cliff Maas said the gulf waters were warmer than usual. Duh.

            And the ‘relative humidity’ you bungled so badly.

          4. AndyG55
          5. Lou Maytrees

            And more deflection from AndyG55, but ‘Galveston in 1900’. And still he refuses to believe the proven science that LESS relative humidity means the atmosphere can hold MORE water vapor. He even posts another link showing RH declining. Ouch! Do some research Andy. Actual science research, not blog research.

            And it does not change what you keep waving your hands about as still, no climate scientist ever said AGW caused Harvey. So right as rain, none of them are going to apologize for something they did not say. How ridiculous a conclusion from you – apologize for something they did not say. Only in your magical world of spin.
            Yet you keep making believe its some thing that happened except. So all you have are falsehoods on it and the media spin about it! That’s easy enough to see here, its your m.o..

          6. AndyG55

            Poor Loo, denies that history shows Harvey was NOTHING out of the ordinary.

            Only the biggest fool, ie Loo, would think CO2 or human influence had ANYTHING to do with it.

            What was out of the ordinary was the 11 year period of NO hurricanes.

            So hilarious when he DENIES graphs that show LESS water vapour .

            Remain ignorant, Loo, its all you have.

          7. AndyG55

            Funny that lower relative humidity, means DRYER air. 😉

          8. AndyG55

            I wonder if Loo is intelligent to figure out what “Average Precipitable Water Vapour” is.

            And what it means when it decreases..

            Too much to expect ???

        2. RAH

          What they said is that climate change would increase the strength of tropical storms. The claim is based only on the general conditions of the SSTs and the atmosphere as they claim them to be and could only mean that the proportion of major hurricanes would increase. But they have not a scintilla of hard data that supports that claim and so what they said was nonscientific based conjecture obviously intended to be reported as “scientists say” in order to support the catastrophic climate change meme. Indefensible.

          1. Lou Maytrees

            Even the satellites show the troposphere has warmed. A warmer atmosphere holds more moisture so any and every storm taps into more moisture whether you believe it or not. And that’s what the scientists said, the hurricanes had more moisture to use b/c of AGW, not the rw media spin that the hurricanes were caused by it.

          2. AndyG55


            Only reason Harvey dropped so much rain was because it got stuck with one half over the ocean and the other half over land, like a pump system. Hurricanes usually keep moving and the rain spreads out over a larger area.

            And relative humidity is falling.



          3. RAH

            Total Rubbish for sure Andy on many levels! Good to know though that lou is citing Trenberth.
            Any look back over the climate and weather history reveals colder times are stormier times.

            Scientists said much more than Lou Maytrees says.

            “The rapid succession of Hurricane Irma, one of the most powerful storms ever recorded in the Atlantic Ocean, after the devastation of Hurricane Harvey is unusual, say scientists, who add warming oceans are likely to make such storms increasingly common in the coming decades.
            “Global warming is tangibly increasing hurricane risks around the world,” said Kerry Emanuel, a professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “The science is pretty confident about that.”
            Hurricanes are the product of many variables, from the temperatures of oceans and the upper atmosphere to long-term, natural changes to ocean currents and water vapor. That makes it difficult to say conclusively that the one-two punch of Harvey and Irma — a Category 5 storm that threatens the Caribbean and possibly Florida with “potentially catastrophic’’ force — can be linked to global warming.”


            “A new study by Kerry Emanuel, a prominent hurricane researcher at MIT, found that contrary to previous findings, tropical cyclones are likely to become both stronger and more frequent in the years to come, especially in the western North Pacific, where storms can devastate the heavily populated coastlines of Asian nations. Emanuel’s research showed the same holds true for the North Atlantic, where about 12 percent of the world’s tropical cyclones spin each year………..
            Emanuel’s study, published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, uses the latest generation of global climate models to power a series of high-resolution, regional simulations of tropical cyclones around the world………..
            There are, however, two key points of agreement between Emanuel’s new study and the rest of the scientific literature on hurricanes and climate change. The first is that as ocean temperatures continue to increase, the frequency of high intensity hurricanes is projected to increase as well.”

            Emanuel was about the first to start this stronger hurricane crap. It started right after Katrina during the record breaking 2005 Atlantic hurricane season.

            There is absolutely no evidence since then that what has been claimed would happen, has happened. FALSIFIED!

          4. AndyG55

            “Even the satellites show the troposphere has warmed.”

            LESS than the surface, DOH !!

            “And that’s what the scientists said, the hurricanes had more moisture to use b/c of AGW”

            Ahhh.. so the media is NOT to blame for their LIES and scientific incompetence.

            You just proved yourself wrong.

            What a useless little troll you are.

          5. Lou Maytrees

            RAH – one hasta laugh, UAH showing the atmosphere has warmed, Ole & Clive showing RH is down, the ocean surface temps warming, but none of those is hard enough data for you. So no matter what the data it’ll never be hard enough for you so you’re simply fostering an ideology.

            And btw, the increase in storm and hurricane strength b/c of AGW was talked about long before Katrina, anyone can look that up online.
            You folks sure come up w some doozies.

          6. Kenneth Richard

            And btw, the increase in storm and hurricane strength b/c of AGW was talked about long before Katrina, anyone can look that up online.

            Indeed it was. However, observations reveal that hurricane intensities have been decreasing in recent decades. Why have the models been so wrong?

          7. AndyG55

            “the ocean surface temps warming, “

            Oceans are cooling. Particularly the North Atlantic and Southern Pacific

            “the increase in storm and hurricane strength”

            Data show decrease in storm strength. 12 year lull in USA hurricanes.

            Zero proof that AGW even exists, let alone affects hurricanes.. Purely suppository.

          8. yonason (from my cell phone)

            @AndyG55 3. January 2018 at 6:42

            And the part over “land” was over the swamps. There’s no way Harvey could have not dropped massive quantities of water.

          9. AndyG55

            “UAH showing the atmosphere has warmed,”

            ONLY from El Nino ocean releases.

            NO sign of any “global warming™”

            Just BNRW (Benefical Natural Regional Warming) from solar charged ocean events and cycles. Solar now down, cycles turning.

            And one of the first hurricanes after a 12 year absence.

            Its a pity that some low-knowledge cultists don’t realise that it would have been pretty much an average hurricane if it hadn’t got stuck as an ocean pump. But getting reality though a brain-washed mind can be basically impossible.

          10. AndyG55

            And of course, although Harvey was a lot of rain, it was nowhere near a record for Texas


            (ps, I goofed the html code on previous post, sorry. was meant to finish after “12 years absence”)

          11. AndyG55



            I like the words “Climate Clown Show.” 🙂

            Keep practicing, Lou, you might even be able to join them eventually 🙂

        3. RAH

          BTW Global ACE for 2017 was less than 80% of the mean despite an active Atlantic season. Irresponsible claim based on conjecture clearly FALSIFIED!

          But will the “scientists” responsible be called out on it by the general media. Of course not! And if we have another active season in 2018 with majors coming ashore in the US you can be sure we will be hearing the same BS again.

          1. SebastianH

            You do know that ACE is not a measure of total energy a storm or in this case the whole weathersystem contains, right?

          2. RAH

            So what are you trying to prove with that inanity? How does it refute the FACT that I posted. How does is demonstrate that the “scientists” that claimed tropical storms or hurricanes would become more powerful were not dead WRONG!

          3. SebastianH

            So what are you trying to prove with that inanity? How does it refute the FACT that I posted.

            Let’s try an analogy. What has used more energy to accelerate? An unspecified vehicle that drives 100 km/h or another unspecified verhicle that drives 150 km/h? What kind of important variable is missing? Can you tell?

          4. RAH

            The first claims for more powerful hurricanes resulting from climate change were made right after Katrina hit during the 2005 season. Your snail is DEAD!

        4. RAH

          Oh! I’m sorry to say I was dead wrong. Despite the FACT that global ACE was well below the mean this year the media lies about climate change making hurricanes worse continues even though it has long been falsified:

          Here Paul Homewood just buries that inept piece of BBC propaganda:

        5. RAH

          Lou Maytrees 2

          Contrast is what drives the weather to a large extent. Contrast in temperatures, pressure, and humidity.

          we see what is essentially a winter hurricane (Yes I know it’s not a hurricane but look at the picture) hitting up the eastern seaboard of the US this week that will bring snow from northern Florida right up through Maine to Canada. Where did the moisture come from? The Eastern US has been in a deep freeze for two weeks now and yet massive amounts of precipitation are going to be dropped by this storm.

          Joe Bastardi was predicting this storm early last week just as he predicted that Hurricane Harvey would loiter over the Texas coast days before it happened and showed the reason why based on the meteorology. Then AFTER Harvey flooded the Houston area Michael Mann opened his ignorant mouth and said it was made worse by climate change. It was too much for Joe. He most effectively blasted Mann demonstrating that the meteorological reasons that Harvey loitered were exactly the opposite of what Mann claimed.

          Which brings up the question. How can a person claim to know so much about the climate when they demonstrate total ignorance in Meteorology?

    4. sunsettommy

      Sebastian fails to notice that daily .5K anomaly he babbles about is a dribble of a temperature change!

      .5K is the same as -272.65 Celcius

      Not only that it is GISS adjusted crap.

      You can’t be that stupid…….


      1. SebastianH

        Exactly this, the temperature change is tiny, even at +2 K. Thank you for clarifying that. Please remember this next time you claim that GHG forcings can’t cause such a “huge” temperature change.

        1. AndyG55

          “Please remember this next time you claim that GHG forcings can’t cause such a “huge” temperature change.”

          Proof.. ABSENT a always.

          1. sunsettommy

            Agree Andy, he has been shown at least a 100 times now that CO2 doesn’t promote “huge temperature change” at all.

            He is willfully ignoring the posted examples of failed Per Decade warming prediction/projection being shown by Satellite data as being HALF that rate.

            Sorry, but he is a demonstrated liar and dishonest man.

          2. AndyG55

            “he has been shown at least a 100 times now that CO2 doesn’t promote “huge temperature change” at all.”

            He, himself, has shown that there is ZERO empirical proof that CO2 causes ANY WARMING AT ALL. !!

            He just keeps running and hiding from that FACT, like a mindless trollette runs from the sunlight. His mind has already been turned to stone.

  3. RAH

    I live in N. Central Indiana. We had well below average temps for the last week of December and will remain so at least for the first two weeks of January.
    This morning I woke up at 03:30 EST and the temp was -2 F. Three hours later the temp was 2 F. Four degree F rise in three hours during the time of complete darkness! Now how did that happen? Cloud cover/water vapor is the answer. It started snowing at 06:45. Now let’s see CO2 top that!

    1. SebastianH

      Oh, the classic “this effect is much bigger than yours” argument. Do you think that is the case over longer periods of time then just three hours? Do you even understand how the forcing from GHGs is supposed to work?

      Aristotle is often quoted with this sentence: “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”

      Are you able to do that? If not, why exactly are you against the GHG explanation of the recent climate change? We have a saying in Germany for this behaviour: “Was der Bauer nicht kennt, frisst er nicht”

      1. AndyG55

        “If not, why exactly are you against the GHG explanation of the recent climate change? “

        Its demonstrably FALSE, and, as you constantly show us, has ZERO empirical science to back it up.

        It relies PURELY on baseless BELIEF.

    2. RAH

      Ha, I cite a well understood and accepted effect and SebastionH doesn’t like it. His CO2 God MUST be all powerful! LOL! Pathetic.

      1. SebastianH

        Nope, I don’t like it when people compare something like that effect to global warming. Try comparing the magnitudes of both correctly and you might understand.

        When you sit on a swing, the acceleration back and forth is also pretty big, but you are getting nowhere. A snail with its smallish acceleration will get farther given lots of time.

        1. AndyG55

          Another mindless irrelevant analogy.

          Shows seb’s child-like comprehension of… basically everything.

          And seb, you have got NOWHERE in all the time you have been here.

          …. except to dig your troll hole deeper and deeper..

          Now all the slime you throw is dripping back in on you.

  4. RAH

    Tonight and tomorrow night are forecast to for my area to see the lowest temps this week. -7 F tonight and -14 F tomorrow night.

    I feed the birds year around. I have an eight pound feeder and two seed block cages. The feeders are busiest during times like this with snow cover and low temps. They’ll go through nearly four pounds of feed every day so I have to fill the feeder every other day. They’ll also go through a 4 lb seed block every 3-4 days.

    1. AndyG55

      I have a group of magpies that call me in the morning.

      They really like Arnotts sesame wheat biscuits.

      Nothing to do with cold.. they are just greedy. 🙂

      1. Jeff

        Look at the bright side: they could call you a lot worse than that 🙂

        And Happy New Year to you and everyone here (and a VERY late Happy Christmas).

        (Waiting for some local warming from my water heater which seems to have shuffled off its heating coils 🙂 or 🙁 ).

        1. AndyG55

          “they could call you a lot worse than that ”

          Gees, if I’m 10 minutes late getting out of bed, they certainly let me know.

          I glad I can’t translate “magpie”. 😉

  5. RAH

    President trump just killed them with his tweet about cold weather. The responses by the wacko alarmists expose them for the radical fools they are.
    We have this guy, Rush Limbaugh that is a political commentator on Radio. He has the most listened to talk radio program in the US and is actually credited with saving AM radio broadcasting. He has a saying that “I live rent free inside the heads of the left”. Here is an excellent short article that IMO is exactly correct that follows that same theme but with the President getting into their heads.
    “Trump ends 2017 Residing in the Heads of His Enemies”

    1. SebastianH

      It’s kind of funny how conservatives view their president and imagine him “triggering” his opponents. Well, there is a thing called Hanlon’s Razor: “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.”

      That’s what is going on and everyone is laughing. “Residing in his enemies heads” … ha 😉 Am I residing in your head? 😉

      P.S.: Where do you live? -14F sounds awfully cold. We currently have +12C, could use some of that global cooling that everyone is talking about in the skeptic corner of the internet 😉

      1. yonason (from my cell phone)

        Trump graduated from the prestigious Warton School Of Business, and went on to become a billionaire. His presidency is so far one of the most economically successful ever. If only we had more people that “stupid.”

        1. SebastianH

          He’ll have plenty of time to mess it up. Calling it successful at this point is like calling for global cooling at this point. We’ll see.

          Why aren’t you a billionaire? You seem to be more intelligent than him and I really mean that.

      2. AndyG55

        “Am I residing in your head?”

        You aren’t even residing in your own head seb,

        Your own head has been proven to be totally empty.

        You should move to Siberia if you want it colder than 12C.

        No-one would miss you.

        1. yonason (from my cell phone)

          Living inside our heads, lol. I prefer my earlier analogy to the useless and unsightly nuisance of a barnacle defacing an otherwise beautiful ship.

      3. AndyG55

        ““Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.””

        We attribute everything you do or say as 100% stupidity, seb.

        … with a big dose of malice on top.

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  7. John F. Hultquist

    When Pierre first posted Joe’s forecast for this cold spell, I made sure the heater in the stock water tank was working, and I wrapped a heat-tape on the stand-pipe for the frost free faucet. last winter got cold and stayed that way for a few weeks. WE live in central Washington State and the winter was hard on things, people, and animals.

    Sometimes that cold air comes over the Rocky Mountains and pushes southwestward into the Columbia River Valley. If there is enough of the cold and the flow is good, then if crosses the valley and comes up on our west side, at 2,200 feet (670 m.).
    Before Christmas we had a couple of cold days –radiation cooling.
    The current cold is missing us. Look at the map up top. High yesterday was 5.5°C (42°F). Today, noonish, it is just above freezing. We’ve many relatives and friends in that cold area in the east.
    Stay warm & Happy New Year!

  8. RAH

    As stated above I live in North Central Indiana. I live about 40 Km NNE of Indianapolis, IN.

    The NCEP GEFS 5 day mean anomaly shows us running greater than 15 deg below normal but Monday night and Thursday night are forecast to be exceptionally cold. If we reach -14 F it will be 2 deg. colder than the coldest ambient temp I can remember seeing here. But the miserable part of this is that if the models are correct this area will remain very cold through the first week and still remain well below the norm through the 2nd week of January.

  9. RAH

    BTW SebastionH I lived out of a ruck sack moving on skies through the Green Mountains of Vermont with people chasing me for 15 days one time. It never got above 0 F the whole time and one night my little thermometer registered -33 F. Lost 15 lb in those 15 days and was in very good shape before we went out. Couldn’t imagine doing that now over 30 years later.

    I also survived the worst winter storm in 10 years to hit Bavaria while outside above the tree line on the Zugspitze.

    I have topped a heck of a lot of mountains in Europe including Mt. Blanc.

    Tested US Army winter clothing and equipment in Barrow Alaska also.

    Attended then Norwegian Army winter training at Dumbas and hold the Austrian Army Hoc Alpinist.

    Why am I telling you this? Well the thing is there are different characters to the cold no matter what the thermometer says. Certain places just feel colder and can hurt you quicker. New England, from Upstate NY up through Maine is one of the places where the feel of the cold is more bitter, more biting than one who hasn’t experienced it and doesn’t have the frame of reference would expect for the latitude. It just hurts more. Worse than I ever experienced anywhere in the Alps no matter what the altitude.

    1. John F. Hultquist

      -33°F (-36°C) is the coldest I’ve ever experienced.
      Now where we live it has gone only to -15F and for 2 weeks never got above zero F. Agree with the “different character” to cold.

      Some might like to read about “The Whisper of the Stars” regarding the Sakha Republic (Yakutia). It gets Ouch! cold.

      1. AndyG55

        I am so glad I live where I do.

        Coldest it gets here is about 5ºC overnight mid winter. 🙂

        Use to live in Canberra.. Yucky cold in winter.. -10ºC !!

        Give me warm any time. !!

    2. Bitter&twisted

      Coldest I have ever been was on a survival course in the Antarctic.
      One of the things we had to do was a a sail into a crevasse, then climb out, without assistance. Hands went blue, the rest of me got very warm with the effort.
      Then you cool down very quick from the perspiration.
      Not pleasant.

      1. RAH

        Using the Prussic knots for self rescue? One foot and chest was how we did it. Toughest part is getting back over the lip.

        1. The Indomitable Snowman, Ph.D.

          I used to use webbing and a couple of ascenders. It was tricky getting all that properly arrayed on your harness for normal movement, but it was great for crevasse self-rescue – with a little practice you could pull yourself up rather quickly and easily.

          But agreed that no matter the method, getting up over the lip is the toughest part.

          1. RAH

            Just a comment to explain a fundamental difference between military climbing and most civilian climbing. We were carrying not only our climbing equipment but what we would need to live for an extended period plus weapons and ammo, etc. Thus, like everything else, the climbing equipment is kept to the bare minimum of what was required to get to where we needed to be. That location of course was a military objective or a place for staging to meet military objectives. The easiest route that it was judged would avoid detection is what one is looking for.

            In military climbing generally the lead climber or a lead team blaze the path leaving in the protection in for those that follow. In our case on an SF alpine team we each needed to be capable of leading or being a part of a lead team because in some situations we would set up the route for troops to follow that had little or no alpine or climbing experience and no climbing equipment. In certain situations we would have to train them how to make and use an expedient climbing harness. Thus we would be relatively heavy in ropes, ice screws, pitons, wedges, carabiners, but very light in such things as ascenders.

            Thus prussic knots for self rescue.

        2. Bitter&twisted

          We had to “duma” our way out.
          Not quite as hard as with knots, but still b. hard work.

          1. RAH

            The reason why it was so tough to get over the lip is because the rope has cut into the ice. After the first time I just said to hell with it. If I fall, then I fall. I would run my foot loop up as high as I could. Run the chest prussic up to the edge of ice lip. Get up as high as the chest prussic would allow and reach out over the lip with my ice axe as far as I could and drive it into the ice as hard as I could. The I would release the chest prussic and stand in the foot loop pulling on the handle of the ice axe to get over the lip. Practice makes perfect.

          2. RAH

            And yes the it’s hard sweaty work no matter how it’s done but once one gets over the anxiety of the height and becomes more confident it becomes a little easier.

    3. yonason (from my cell phone)

      Fascinating! Thanks for sharing.

    4. SebastianH

      I second that, thanks for sharing.

      Global warming (or cooling if you prefer that) – no matter by how many degrees – will not change much of those experiences though. If it gets warmer by just a little on average the effects are more subtle than suddenly being able to walk around in Bermuda shorts on the Zugspitze in the middle of Winter.

      Imagining it this way is similar to those who don’t understand what automation will do to jobs. Take a lawyer for example, automating 10% of what a lawyer does will not make the lawyer profession go away, it will cause 10% of the lawyers not having anything to do or lets all lawyers reduce their work hours by 10%. Snow on the Zugspitze (or at your location) will not be something of the past because of global warming …

      1. AndyG55

        Again with the empty , irrelevant, pointless, dull-minded analogies.

        Snow extent is INCREASING, get over it. !!

        1. SebastianH

          Snow extent is INCREASING, get over it. !!

          Where exactly? Be specific! No “entiry NH” oversimplification, otherwise you’ll have to accept that the globe is warming and that would mean it get’s warmer everywhere following your way of arguing.

          1. Kenneth Richard

            Snow extent is INCREASING, get over it. !!

            Where exactly? Be specific!

            In recent decades, the central and eastern U.S. and throughout nearly all of Asia and Eastern Europe it’s been getting snowier. In the Southern Hemisphere, Antarctica has been accumulating more snow in recent decades, especially West Antarctica.

            During the 1940s to 1980s, Greenland’s inland surface added about 80 meters (height) of additional snow and ice, and the slight retreat since then has been slower than 95% of the last 10,000 years per scientists.

            Where has it been getting less snowier, SebastianH? Be specific. And has the land area where snow cover has been decreasing been overriding the land area where snow has been increasing? If so, by how much? Again, be specific.

  10. tom0mason

    And of course the true believers are surprised by an increase in snow (or any natural event that goes against their religious belief).

    “Scientists stunned by massive snowfall increases among Alaska’s highest peaks” screams the headline ( ), some of us were not so surprised.

    So yet again we see evidence that some ‘climate scientist™’ are so wedded to their computerized virtue reality vision of a planet, and so innocent of the real world, that any real, ordinary, natural, phenomena leaves them mystified by its occurrence, and utterly bewildered as to the mechanism that could cause such an event.

    Heck one day they may actually realize there is no measured evidence that the current minuscule amount of atmospheric CO2 levels do anything appreciable to the climate or weather. They may also come to understand that the sun sets the climate change trend trajectory, with the oceans and the clouds are the major actors describing the way the weather and climate will move by this solar command.

    Wishing Pierre L. Gosselin, Kenneth Richard and all commenters a happy and prosperous New Year, and thank-you for an interesting year of blogging and comments.

    1. RAH

      “Wishing Pierre L. Gosselin, Kenneth Richard and all commenters a happy and prosperous New Year, and thank-you for an interesting year of blogging and comments.”


  11. RAH

    P Gosselin

    I go to weatherbell to watch their free videos nearly every day. Joe Bastardi and his gang are top notch as forecasters of weather and Joe is just awesome come hurricane season. I am surprised that you do the same because most of his time in those videos is used forecasting US weather. That is, unless your a paying member, then you get the world!

  12. RAH
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  14. Steve

    Exactly what temperature do the scaremongering warmist alarmists want it to be?
    Is it meant to be the same all over the Globe?
    What is normal ?
    Do they think that they can achieve pleasant conditions for everyone?
    Trump has done the right thing..he’s said F you.
    They are meeting their targets.( Buggered if I know why they bothered) Germany isn’t.
    And who sets the target and where is it? 10 deg less?

    What a bunch of cretinous non thinking egotistical morons are those who think that they can control the temperature of the planet.
    NEWS — pleasant day in Bondi. 300 kms up the road was a massive storm!!

    1. SebastianH

      Thank you for showing us so eloquently the mental model of a typical climate change skeptic 😉

      1. AndyG55

        Thank YOU, seb , for continually showing us the mental non-functionality of the below standard AGW troll.

  15. Steve

    Exactly what temperature do the scaremongering warmist alarmists want it to be?
    Is it meant to be the same all over the Globe?
    What is normal ?
    Do they think that they can achieve pleasant conditions for everyone?
    Trump has done the right thing..he’s said F you.
    They are meeting their targets.( Buggered if I know why they bothered) Germany isn’t.
    And who sets the target and where is it? 10 deg less?

    What a bunch of cretinous non thinking egotistical morons are those who think that they can control the temperature of the planet.
    NEWS — pleasant day in Bondi. 300 kms up the road was a massive storm!!

  16. RAH

    LOL! It’s all because of Global warming.
    I got called into work to drive Tuesday on a vacation day because of global warming. The reason I was called to come off vacation was because so many drivers had called off due to frozen pipes, furnace failures, or cars that would not start due to global warming.

    I was scheduled to depart the yard at 05:00. The coldest part of what may well be the coldest day of this year for us. When I turned the key on the truck, because of global warming the temp gauge read -15 F because of global warming.

    The truck would not keep running because the diesel fuel had gelled due to global warming. My brakes shoes were frozen to the drums because of global warming. The techs had four other drivers having the same problems that they had to do before they could get to mine due to global warming.

    During my drive up to Waukegan, IL (Chicago) I passed through Lafayette, IN where they have power lines humming due to the extra load in this exceptionally cold weather due to global warming.

    Stories coming out about the strain in generating capacity and transmission infrastructure all over the eastern US due to global warming.

    Noticed many more vehicles than usual having mechanical troubles on the shoulder of I-65 due to global warming.

    I-10 is the most southern coast to coast Interstate in the US has a 50 miles section closed in northern Florida due to global warming.

    The east coast of the US is being slammed by a very powerful Nor Easter that will disrupt transportation and commerce all along I-95 from northern Florida to Maine due to global warming. Boston is forecast to receive the most snow from this blizzard. A few years ago I drove into Boston the day after the largest recorded snow fall in that cities history and that also was caused by global warming.

    The warming never ends.

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