New Findings Show No Existence Of “Permanent El Nino” During Greenhouse Episode Of The Past

Here’s something the alarmist warmists can put in their pipes and smoke.

A new paper titled El Niño–Southern Oscillation variability from the Late Cretaceous Marca Shale of California authored by Andrew Davies, Alan E.S. Kemp, Graham P. Weedon, and John A. Barron shows that a permanent El Nino did not exist during that particular greenhouse episode.

The latest Cretaceous laminated Marca Shale of California permits a seasonal-scale reconstruction of water column flux events and hence interannual paleoclimate variability. The paper’s abstract continues (emphasis added):

Time series analysis of interannual variability in terrigenous sediment and diatom flux and in the degree of bioturbation indicates strong periodicities in the quasi-biennial (2.1–2.8 yr) and lowfrequency (4.1–6.3 yr) bands both characteristic of ENSO forcing, as well as decadal frequencies. This evidence for robust Late Cretaceous ENSO variability does not support the theory of a “permanent El Niño,” in the sense of a continual El Niño–like state, in periods of warmer climate.”

In the paper’s conclusion we find:

There is therefore little support for the existence of a ‘permanent El Niño’ in the Late Cretaceous, in the sense of the continual El Niño state depicted by Fedorov et al. (2006). […] there was robust ENSO variability in past “greenhouse” episodes and that future warming will be unlikely to promote a permanent El Niño state.”

This is not the first paper to suggest that. You can read about an earlier paper here.

So much for the scare that the CO2 emitted by man would propel the planet into a permanent El Nino burn-up, as Ray Pierrehumbert and climate models suggested here at RealCrock:

How will the El Niño phenomenon be affected by a global warming?
…how ENSO will respond to a global warming is still not settled. However, it seems that one common trait among some climate models is the indication that a global warming may result in a more a general El Niño-type average state (eg. Collins et al. 2005, Climate Dynamics, 24, 89-104. 19 and here).”

So much for “settled science”.

H/t: Dr Ghana

6 responses to “New Findings Show No Existence Of “Permanent El Nino” During Greenhouse Episode Of The Past”

  1. Dave N

    “Permanent” means “always exists”. If it was “permanent”, it would still be with us. Alarmists are some of the worst users of terminology; it is the same as lying.

    Ironically, they’re the ones lamenting that others spread “misinformation”.

  2. DirkH

    O/T My trusty warmist Internet provider T-Online, part of Deutsche Telekom, has a German language video about Project Earth here. Where warmists travel around the Earth to experience Climate Change.
    It’s rather hilarious. Buzz Aldrin supports the project. They try to save the planet, while filming for Discovery Channel, doing the kind of stunts you’d expect at Discovery Channel. Like throwing seeds from helicopters.
    Helicopters?… Ah, nevermind.

  3. DirkH

    Lubos Motl: Milankovic fixed. Works now. A derivative term was missing. Influence of temperature on CO2 20 times larger than influence of CO2 on temperature.

  4. DirkH

    German, French and Dutch researchers have determined that butterflies and birds do not move fast enough northwards to catch up with climate change.
    (That’s very bad news. It means that the European research institutes are populated with morons, and we have to pay them.)

  5. Juraj V.

    They did not get the memo. Permanent La Nina is coming!

    I studied the AR4 report concerning this, and the outcome was that nobody knows. Just Hansen dreamt about permanent El Nino on 1998.

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