Just be patient. The warming is really coming. It’s just going to take a little longer than we first thought.
After David Viner had made his now famous “Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past” claim in 2000, the always publicity-seeking Prof. Mojib Latif of Germany’s Max Planck Institute made sure to get in on the act, telling Spiegel only days later: “There aren’t going to be winters with strong frosts and lots of snow at our latitudes anymore, like 20 years ago.”
Today, as Germany reels from its 5th colder-than-normal winter in a row (a record), Latif’s words are sounding cavernously hollow. As a result, Germany’s fundamentalist warmist, catastrophe-obsessed blog site klimaretter.de (climate rescuers) has gone into the damage-control mode, and has conducted an interview with the Prof. Latif in order to re-convince the public that the threat is still out there, is real and that we must remain afraid.
Latif is a meteorologist and climate scientist at the Helmholtz Center for Ocean Research in Kiel (Geomar). He’s also a top IPCC scientist. Photo credit: Björn Láczay from Moosburg, Germany. Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license.
Latif: Warming has been small so far
In the interview Latif claims that people have simply forgotten what a winter really looks like, and that’s why snow makes us think the winter is harsh. He tells us that also in times of global warming there can be real winters. “The warming so far with 0.7 to 0.8 on a global average is still small.” The natural climate fluctuations can still have their full impacts. “Still small”? Before they told us that kind of warming was “unprecedented”.
Latif now postpones warm winters by up to 100 years!
When asked about his David Viner-like comment made to Spiegel in 2000, Latif is forced to amend it, saying: “Indeed there won’t be any more cold winters in 2050 or 2100, if the mean temperatures are several degrees higher.” There we have it: Warm winters suddenly postponed 50 – 100 years.
Latif: Recent cold winters are just weather
When asked to explain what is behind the unexpected, recent harsh winters, Latif tells klimaretter that there are currently 2 explanations: 1) The Arctic ice melt may be changing the atmospheric currents, or 2) changes to currents in the stratosphere. Latif then seems to go on and dismiss both of these explanations, offering his own: “My hypothesis is: The cause is the completely normal chaos of the weather.”
Latif: Warming has stopped but is taking place “in the background”
Ooooh, we’re so scared. Latif acknowledges that warming has stopped over the last 15 years, but labels the conclusion that the AGW theory is therefore wrong as “nonsense”. The recent temperature stagnation “is not in contradiction to global warming“, and cites natural fluctuations that “can have an impact for decades“. He insists that “warming is still taking place in the background“.
Latif: Accelerated warming is just around the next corner!
In the interview, Latif claims that once the natural and man-made causes start complimenting each other, global temperatures will take off again. “The current stagnation means everything but calling off the alarm.”
Now IPCC scientists are telling us that the big bad warming is still out there, that we still need to be very afraid, but that it’s only postponed…maybe up to 100 years… But it’s out there!
This all reminds me of a scene in the 1986 movie “Stand By Me” (one of my favorites) where scaredy-cat Vern is guarding the camp, scared crapless of a cricket (at 10:12).
Vern on guard (at 10:12), spooked by every little sound. Stand by Me (1986)