Climate Professor Says German Climate Science Hyped By Sloppy, Politically Corrupted Media!

German Klagermauer TV here shows a recent presentation made by veteran climatologist Prof. Dr. Werner Kirstein, in the lead up to the Marrakesh climate conference.


Prof. Dr. Werner Kirstein calls climate protection a form of populism where governments hope to garner praise for their climate protection efforts. Image cropped from Klagemauer TV.

Kirstein has become an outspoken critic of the manmade global warming science. In his presentation, he explains in layman terms how the climate system works and why the often ballyhooed climate catastrophe is mostly “media propaganda”.

At the start, the 40-year climate science veteran explains how today’s climate is nothing unusual when taken in a historical context, and shows that previous interglacials were even warmer than the current one. Climate is a highly variable system and changes, even sudden ones, are nothing unusual. Another point he makes while explaining climate history is that CO2 rises always followed temperature rises, and not vice versa. Over history there has been very little correlation between CO2 concentration and global temperature.

Warming today not surprising, mostly natural

Kirstein maintains that the warming over the past decades has been mostly due to natural causes associated with the climb out of the Little Ice Age, and therefore is not surprising.

At the 17-minute mark he slams the greenhouse heat trapping theory, as it is taught today. Kirstein says the CO2 acts to diffuse long wave radiation from the earth and that the heat should appear at the mid to the upper troposphere, and not the earth’s surface. He says that the greenhouse effect as presented to the public has already been theoretically refuted and “falsified” by Tscheuchner and Gerlich.

At the 19-minute mark he says that there is indeed a greenhouse effect, but not the sort that heats the climate. Rather CO2 has a greening effect, as it serves as food for plants and in this aspect is positive for the planet. Plants grow optimally when concentrations are quadrupled (for C3 plants).

Observations have diverged from model projections

At the 25;20 mark Kirstein looks at the global warming temperature projections for the future, and says global temperatures have fallen way short of these projections. In the presentation he slams Al Gore for cherry-picking and inappropriately and unrealistically extrapolating trends out into the future when knowing full well that the chaotic climate system in fact doesn’t behave that way.

Media has hyped climate change

Professor Kirstein also criticizes the media for hyping the natural climate changes, reminding viewers that earlier they had warned in the 1970s of a coming ice age, before turning on a dime a decade later and predicting a sea level rise that would soon submerge half of the Cologne Cathedral. “They were making people crazy with it.” He adds at the 34:30 mark that the German media has lost credibility on the subject.

2°C target is nonsense

At the 32:30 mark he calls the 2°C target set by policymakers “nonsense”. Also the claims made by the German media that the Sahara Desert is expanding get refuted by Kirstein when he shows at the 35:50 mark how the Sahara is in fact shrinking. Kirstein slams a variety of tricks that the media use to mislead viewers.

At the 40:00 mark Kirstein presents a chart of Germany’s mean temperature over the past 28 years and asks where the warming is. The trend is behaving opposite to what was projected to happen!


Germany has not seen any warming in 3 decades! Chart: Josef Kowatsch, image from Klagemauer TV.

According to Kirstein, “Not a single model predicted the cooling of the last decade.”

At 44:00 Kirstein explains that climate has to be observed for minimum 30 years, better 50, or even 100, before one can draw conclusions. Making claims on events that occur over a period of only a few years “is a joke”, he says.

Some methods “bordering on fraud”

Later he shows that weather extremes such as cyclones show no trend. “No significant statistical trend at al over the past 40 years.” He labels “unserious scientific methods” used by climatologists as being “marginal in the least, at times false, and some even bordering on fraud.”

He slams German ZDF television at 50:00 for sloppy reporting in their failure to properly research sea level rise as related to tectonic plate movement in a show on sea level rise for Micronesia broadcast in 2009. Throughout the presentation Kirstein dispels of one media climate panic scenario after another — everything from polar bears in the Arctic to sea ice at the South Pole. The media often present future scenarios as fact and so misinform their audiences.

At the end Kirstein blasts how the state controlled media has in effect politicized the science. He says climate protection is now a form of populism where governments hope to garner praise for their climate protection efforts. At the end he quotes Danish astrophysicist Henrik Svensmark: “It has nothing to do with science”.


16 responses to “Climate Professor Says German Climate Science Hyped By Sloppy, Politically Corrupted Media!”

  1. Gibo


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      1. Dave Ward

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  2. tom0mason

    He says that the greenhouse effect as presented to the public has already been theoretically refuted and “falsified” by Tscheuchner and Gerlich.

    The reference to Gerlich & Tscheuschner I assume means this paper that is freely available for download. On Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects.

    1. yonason

      Here’s a paper replying to one of their critics.

    2. yonason

      here’s the 2009 updated version 4.0

  3. tom0mason

    lso of use here is the graphic

    From Line-by-line calculation of atmospheric fluxes and cooling rates
    2. Application to carbon dioxide, ozone, methane, nitrous oxide and the halocarbons
    S. A. Clough and M. J. Iacono
    Atmospheric and Environmental Research, Inc., Cambridge, Massachuset

    And I quote the ever reliable E.M.Smith (aka ChiefIO)–

    First, look at that left hand lower edge. See that big red spot? That’s water, dumping heat like crazy at the top of the troposphere. At a height that is determined NOT by that nice flat dashed line of tropopause, but directly by the amount of heat that needs to be dumped! Once again we have a ‘static scored’ model in a dynamic real world. More heat at the surface means more and stronger convection, more and stronger evaporation, and a bigger red spot higher up that graph! Remember that tropical storm “overshoot”? Not seeing it on this graph, are we?… Surges of heat would lead to surges of water across that dotted tropopause line and into the lower stratosphere. That is what we know actually happens.

    Now look over at that large orange / yellow / green “cats eye” in the stratosphere that is the CO2 signature. Look directly below it. See that basically empty band of light blue? That is a direct reading on CO2, and it shows that the CO2 is just not doing anything that matters in the troposphere.

    From that point, as you move to the right below the tropopause, you find water once again radiating at height, but not as much, in an even larger wavenumber (shorter wavelength). The overall message of this graph is just that in the troposphere, water is everything and CO2 is nothing. We can also add to this graph that convection and evaporation / condensation are major processes in the troposphere and this radiative model isn’t really all that important for surface cooling at all.

    In the stratosphere we see some cooling from water vapor, so, little as there is up there, it still does something. However, THE largest blobs of cooling color come from CO2 and ozone. Adding CO2 to the atmosphere causes more radiative heat loss from just those parts of the atmosphere that do radiative heat loss, and does nearly nothing in that part of the atmosphere dominated by convection and evaporation / precipitation. Warming of the surface of the earth increases convection, evaporation, and water transport, and deposits that water and heat higher in the sky; so will dump more heat into the stratosphere (and perhaps more water vapor too … enhancing that water radiative part).

    1. yonason

      OK, here’s the link to the whole article on his blog.

      1. tom0mason

        Thanks yonason,
        I quoted the wrong link…

  4. John F. Hultquist

    I often have a comment delayed, saying it is a duplicate, but then it appears later. Not a big deal.

    “Authentication required” — I’ve never seen this.

    Nice post, though.

  5. Scott

    Agree Great post. it would be good to watch a translated version of the video.

  6. Johannes S. Herbst

    In general, Dr Kirstein made a good presentation. One problem is the statement that climate sensitve gasses do radiate in all directions but do not radiate down to the surface.

    He refers to Tscheusschner and Gerlich, but their paper has been debunked by many sceptic Scientists as well.

    CO2 an comrades radiste in all directions, so a certain amount of the heat comes back to eaarth, some radiates into space and some heat is trandferred by contact withoter gasses, which have later again contact with climate sensive Gasse and then are radiated into space as well.

    Downwelling radiation can be measured even by laymen. The background radiation of the space is -270°C, which is 3°C above 0 Kelvin. With my IR-Thermometer directed to the sky in measure here in Germany between -70 to 10°C, which is 200 – 280 °C above the space backround radiation measured by satellites. When I measure with a tilt angle near the orizon, the temperature goes up, because there I get more radiation from the lower layers of the air.

    Yes even if there is a so-called greenhouse effect, there are so many other factore which affect climate sensitivty, which is estimated by 0.25-1.5°C per doubling.

    1. tom0mason

      Aiming your IR-Thermometer at the sky and horizon is utterly useless in showing atmospheric warming. It is neither accurate for that kind of measurement nor without considerable mathematical adjustments to the reading will it be close to the true temperature. IR-Thermometer are made for close (most are calibrated to be used withing 4 meter range) temperature measurement and then ONLY from non shiny surfaces. The instructions that came with the IR-Thermometer should tell you the limits of the instrument’s calibration and how to use it for accurate measurements. If there are no instruction showing these requirements throw the IR-Thermometer in the trash as it is worthless regardless of cost!
      Pointing it at the sky gives a reading — yes, but it is meaningless as there is NO CALIBRATION for this function.
      What is the IR emissivity of the sky? (see here for examples) What is the size of the zone (spot size) being measured? Without these parameters your reading is bogus.

  7. yonason

    “He refers to Tscheusschner and Gerlich, but their paper has been debunked by many sceptic Scientists as well.” – J.S. Herbst

    I’d like to see a link (or three) to that. I’m skeptical of the validity of their criticism.

    1. yonason
  8. Johannes S. Herbst from UAH (one of the the 2 satellite curves) wrote al lot of stuff about the CO2-not-warming-issue on his site. He also used the IR-thermometer and other experiments to show that there is downwelling radiation.

    IR thermometers are not measuring radiation from CO2, but IR-radiation in general. For IR it doesn’t matter if comes from some centimetres or kilometers. And they are showing us that there is something coming down, even if the measurement is not really exact.

    IR thermometers are using a thermopile, just as the Pyrgeometers for professionally measuring downwelling radiation.

    Here a German explanation of downweling radiation
    n/a in english

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