German Warmists Now Fear Growing Skepticism Is Making A “Dangerous Comeback”

Anthropogenic global warming skepticism, not taken seriously in Germany until recently, has now got the warmists in a state of panic, despair and even deeper irrationality.

 

Warmists Vlad Georgescu and Marita Vollborn have written an essay at German public radio called: Climate Change? No Thanks! It focuses on the growing wave of skepticism now sweeping across Germany, all sparked by Fritz Vahrenholt’s and Sebastian Lüning’s skeptic book Die kalte Sonne (see right side bar). Georgescu and Vollborn write:

It is a dangerous comeback. Not even a year has passed since 7 of Germany’s atomic power reactors have been taken offline, and book publishers and the media have now found a new issue: man-made climate change is a fake.”

Both Georgescu and Vollborn claim that publishers, using hefty advertising budgets and “brute force”, are ramming books of this kind onto the bestseller lists against the mainstream. Georgescu and Vollborn are clearly perturbed and add:

Book publishers are whipping up this trend because provocative issues promise fat profits in times of falling sales. The publishing comeback of the climate change opponents would be negligible were it not for the simultaneous ongoing energy-political decisions that have serious consequences.”

Here one can assume with reasonable certainty that the two authors are taking aim at Hoffmann & Campe, the publisher of Die kalte Sonne, and Axel Springer, a powerful media group that runs the leading dailies that recently featured articles such as the now infamous The CO2 Lies and others.

In addition to Vahrenholt’s bestselling book, the two authors bemoan that the German government at the same time has drastically cut back solar energy subsidies, and call the move “an energy-political catastrophe.” Never mind what the subsidies have cost consumers.

The two true-beliver authors are convinced that alternatives are the way to go in the future and pose the question: “Are we too dumb to take advantage of these opportunities?” To which they answer “yes” because “we’re blind to the interdependencies between politics and energy corporations, or the lack of will to stop them.”

At the end of the essay, the two sobbing authors blame the miserable state of the global warming movement on the energy companies and Big Oil. In the end the two authors incite activists and protesters to act up and occupy.

Vahrenholt on Phoenix TV: “High time the discussion gets opened up”

To their credit, producers at Phoenix television featured a 34-minute long interview with Vahrenholt. The interview will be rebroadcast a third time this afternoon.

Click here to watch interview with Vahrenholt

During the talkshow “im Dialog“, moderator Alfred Schier already early in the interview confirms Germany’s growing skepticism: “There have always been skeptics in Germany, but they were never really taken very seriously. That has changed since you’ve joined their side.”

In the show Vahrenholt pretty much said what he’s been saying for weeks now – the IPCC is overstating CO2’s contribution to warming, and he backs it up with facts that no one has refuted so far. At the 7-minute mark Vahrenholt reminds the audience that it is not only himself who doubts the IPCC, “but also hundreds of scientists”.

At the 9:30 mark Vahrenholt then says that Germany “has reached a point where it is no longer allowed to think new ideas” and that people who disagree with AGW get no support of any kind. “It’s high time the discussion gets opened up,” Vahrenholt says, and adds that his book was written to give skeptic scientists a platform which they have long been denied.

The interview then goes into the details of the historical temperature curve where Vahrenholt explains the oceanic and solar impacts that are at play, but which up to now have been ignored by the IPCC. Vahrenholt says that there needs to be an explanation on why there has not been any warming in 14 years.

At the 18:30 mark, Schier brings up Mojib Latif, one of Vahrenholt’s harshest critics. Vahrenholt said he’s somewhat disappointed how a renowned scientist like Latif can make an X look like a U before the German public. Vahrenholt then explained the workings of the stratosphere and that these were things Latif should know. Vahrenholt summed up: “Latif warned 10 years ago that school children in Germany would not know what a snowman was” and then reversed course 5 years later by claiming “that it would get colder”. On that point Vahrenholt agreed. He then added:

What particularly irritated me was that he discussed the book without bothering to read it. That’s just not the way to have a discussion. I read all his publications. This is just something you simply expect a scientist to do.”

Vahrenholt later in the interview claimed that the IPCC has created a climate of fear in Germany – so much so that the country, which gets about as much sunshine as Alaska, went through all the trouble of installing half of the world’s solar power capacity at an enormous cost. Indeed Today Germany is in such a state of irrational panic that it seems ready to commit economic suicide in order to save itself from a computer-modelled climate catastrophe fantasy.

At the 29:30 mark Schier again confirms that skepticism has been unleashed in Germany:

With your book you have turned the perception of climate change on its head, a bestseller against the mainstream.”

Vahrenholt then later says: “In a society there always needs to be someone to provide for movement. In the end, I think society benefits from it.”

At the 32:30 mark Vahrenholt says about the IPCC:

I’m afraid that with the next report, the 5th report, the IPCC will not come to their senses. In the draft it does not look good, the sun doesn’t get the right to be a factor. But in the end, reality will decide whether the IPCC and Germany’s biggest warming proponents bare correct. […] What’s nice today is that with the internet, it’s forever. In 10 years we’ll be able to look back at everything that is said today and see who was right.”

Schier ended the interview by saying that they would meet again in the year 2020 “im Dialog” to see who is right: the IPCC or Vahrenholt. My bet is not on the IPCC.

German readers will also want to see another worthwhile video on ntv:

 

10 responses to “German Warmists Now Fear Growing Skepticism Is Making A “Dangerous Comeback””

  1. Nonoy Oplas

    “…he discussed the book without bothering to read it. That’s just not the way to have a discussion. I read all his publications….” I like that. It shows who are the real scientists driven by facts, not by plain belief.

  2. DirkH

    Mojib Latif says in this video that he has read excerpts of the book. He’s outraged that some German media dare to give Vahrenholt even the tiniest exposure. He tries to make Vahrenholt appear as a Big Oil shill with no scientific knowledge.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LdRT25K6qw&feature=player_embedded

    Well, I hope he gets defunded and fired.

  3. DirkH

    Oh, and thanks to privately-owned n-tv to NOT show archive pictures of Vahrenholt climbing down a manhole with a speaker saying “…but then he descended into a netherworld…” like public broadcaster NDR.

  4. Friedrich Wildhagen

    Here is what I consider to be Vahrenholt’s key statement and the main reason why Vahrenholt got DIS-invited from the TV-show “Hart, aber Fair”.

    Listen to the segment starting at 7:30

    Vahrenholt: … Wieso hast du denn recht und nicht der IPCC? Dieses liegt an der Frage …
    Der IPCC ist eine UN-Behörde, die im Sekretariat überwiegend von Ländern des Südens besetzt ist. Das ist ja nichts Schlimmes, aber die haben ja Interessen. (Deswegen ist es so,) Wenn man die Langfassung des IPCC-Berichts anschaut, kommt alles das vor, was wir auch in unserem Buch “Die kalte Sonne” aufführen. Die Sonne, die Wolken. Es wird beschrieben, dass diese einen Effekt haben. In der Kurzfassung kommt das alles nicht mehr vor. Das ist für mich ein Indiz, dass es in Wirklichkeit nicht um eine Auseinandersetzung von Wissenschaftlern und Fritz Vahrenholt geht, sondern es geht um eine Gesellschaftspolitische Auseinandersetz zwischen dem, was aus vielen wissenschaftlichen Veröffentlichungen gemacht wird, eine Empfehlung für Politiker in Kopenhagen und dem was ich aus der Wissenschaft heraus destilliere.

    Warum sollte es eine Verschwörung seitens IPCC geben?

    Ich glaube nicht an eine Verschwörung, aber ich glaube an einen sich selbst verstärkenden Prozess. … Wenn Sie Sich in Deutschland auf eine Professorenstelle bewerben und Zweifel am AGW äußern, haben Sie keine Chance auf den Job. …

    Translation:

    Vahrenholt: Why are you right and not the IPCC? This is the question …
    The IPCC is a UN agency, their own Office is staffed mainly by countries of the South. That’s not bad, but they have their own interest. (This is why it is so,) If you look at the long version of the IPCC report evrything is mentioned, what we have in our book, “The cold sun”, too. The sun, the clouds. It is described that these have an effect. In the abstract this is no longer mentioned . That to me is an indication that it really is not about a debate between scientists and Vahrenholt, but it is a socio-political discourse between that which is made ​​up of many scientific publications, a recommendation for politicians in Copenhagen and what I distill from science itself.

    Q: Why to should there be a conspiracy on the part of the IPCC?

    Vahrenholt: I do not believe in a conspiracy, but I believe in a self-reinforcing process. … If you apply yourself to a professorship in Germany and express doubts about AGW, you have no chance of getting the job. —- End quote

    To cut a long story short, it’s about money.

    The fat cats are afraid that people will notice the fraud. Science is not settled!

  5. Friedrich Wildhagen

    The Phoenix-Link does not work for me.

    If anyone has the same problem I recommend: http://www.podcast.de/episode/47724965/Episode/

    Cheers

    F

  6. Edward.

    It’s all tremendous stuff PG, how marvellous to see it happening in Germany.

    Deutschland, the EU’s most important supporter and economic powerhouse.

    The alarmist bastion [IPCC] is being raided, the geese are honking, I wish we had enough resources for the final assault and capture of their citadel.
    Alas, we must be patient, as we await the backlash of the bigger [but ineffective] alarmist forces, which to date, has been woeful – makes me wonder – are they about to cede?

    1. Mindert Eiting

      Pointman wrote: ‘There’s a real feeling of April 1945, Berlin, der Fuhrerbunker and its mad occupants, barking unrealistic orders down phones and moving long ago destroyed units around on maps, as if it really meant something. It’s all basically becoming more and more hysterical and irrational.’

      http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/03/02/the-climate-wars/

  7. John F. Hultquist

    Last year, in July (link below), you posted on the run-down character of some German solar installations. In the current post you indicate Germany has about half of the world’s solar power which must have cost a great deal and continues to cost as power is paid for (assuming it is costing more than coal or gas produced power). Is there anything in Die kalte Sonne about this? Are there parts of the book or interviews that speak to other needs of the German people that are not getting attention because of the money being spent on alternative energy sources?

    http://notrickszone.com/2011/07/04/weed-covered-solar-park-20-acres-11-million-only-one-and-half-years-old/

    1. DirkH

      Costs:
      15 to 16 bn Euro of subsidies a year for renewables, subsidy tariffs are paid by kWh produced, lowest for biomass, then comes onshore wind, then PV, highest is off shore wind. Half of the total goes to PV.
      Boils down to 200 EURO per person per year. About a third of these 200 EUR are paid via the electricity bill, the other two thirds are hidden in increased prices (companies have to pay the high energy prices as well so they increase their prices), and in increased taxes (the public sector has to pay the high energy prices as well and has to take the money from the taxpayer).

      As for other needs that are not paid for: We have classic misallocation of capital or grift here and like everywhere else, one “green job” destroys multiple real jobs, how could it be otherwise. Even though Germany counts as the econ powerhouse of the EU ATM, this is only through its absolute size and its RELATIVELY low unemployment – were the PIGS not total basketcases, Germany’s employment rate would look pretty unimpressive – hovers at 9% I estimate, or about 3 million people; while about 35million are employed.

      PV/wind are useless boondoggles and a grifter’s delight. As long as you have a working economy, you can squander money like that. As soon as there come hard times, it turns out you got a turkey round your neck and sink like a stone. See Spain’s collapse after the 2008 PV building craze.

      10 years ago the EU commission in its wisdom decreed that the EU should become the most competitive region of the planet within 10 years.
      Today, the PIK decrees that the Greenland ice shelf will melt in 2,000 to 50,000 years.
      ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS.

  8. Rainer Hoffmann (@solarkritik)

    The TV-Video from PHOENIX with Fritz Vahrenholt here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le5q540x-Ws